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    New with Dh problems ? low morph & IVF IUI

    Hello, it is incouraing to hear all of your histories. My husband and I thought I was the problem for so long due to having endometriosis. However I just went through a pelviscopy with Hysteroscope and intertubulation and found that the endo I have has not in my tubes, ovarys nor will it effect my ability to conceive (it was on my bladder and outside of the uterus). Everything looked great on my part. But, we then got my hubsands results and he has great count (314 mill/ml) and motility (75%) but 3% morph. My fertility specialist has told me he would reccommend IVF and not even try IUI. Have any of you had a similar experiance and concieved through IUI? Also what are all of your average costs associated with IUI and IVF I know they vary but my Dr. looks to be around 10K for IVF. He is saying I would need minimal fsh for about 10 days and that is it. Has anyone concieved naturally with that low of a strict morph. We are going to reyest in about 2 weeks to make sure there wasn't any error in the 1st results I had done through a random RE.


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    Hi there, you and DH sound very similar to me and DH. I've checked out fine, and his numbers are very similar to your DH, except probably worse --200mil total count with 30 percent motility and 4 percent morphology. Not to get you down, but we haven't used bc for 5 out of the 9 years we've been married, and never gotten pg on our own. We did have to do IVF w/ICSI and have one beautiful, miraculous son.

    If we won the lottery maybe I'd go for another round of IVF because I would love to have a second child, but it costs around $14k at our clinic. Then again, they just became a member clinic of Integramed, and have a shared risk program. I have no clue how that works or how it lowers the expense. You might want to see if your clinic has that option?

    Best wishes--remember, it DOES and CAN happen!

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    Thanks... I think we will retest sooner rather than later. At my clinic if you buy one round (without drugs, lab etc, isci) it costs about 8K but if you buy 3 the price goes down significantly. So i think we will pay for the 3 rounds. Even if we get pregnant the 1st time I would feel relief that we don't have to do any more rounds and not be mad about the extra $$. It would saye us over 12K to buy it this way if we have to do 3 rounds. I think I like to be on the side of caution. My friend who has been through IVF several times has tried to convince me to do IUI 1X but I am not sure weather or not I will. I think that ends up costing about 1K.
    The shared risk programs are a lot more expensive... and I read a book stating that the re's can then be to stressed to get you pg and overstim and transfer too many embies.
    I don't know... I ovulated this weekend and we went to stay at a friends house about 3 hours away. My husband felt awkward doing anything there. I don't think I have ever been so mad/hurt in my life. I know we have a very small chance of getting preggers on our own but this is still so taxing.
    Then we have VC's planned in Dec and Feb so I don't know when I should start the IVF program. Do you know if you can fly if you are 1 month pregnant through IVF?


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    My hubby has better morphology than yours (5%) and has like 120mil count and 40-60% motility. IUI with clomid and a trigger was recommended protocol to us. We have apparently been fortunate. We've been able to conceive twice (once ectopic, and now once again). Good luck with whatever you choose.

    BTW, are you in California or Canada? Canada an IUI would be about $1k but in California it wouldn't cost more than about $750 total.
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    Hello everyone wanted to update you as to what has been go9ing on. I had my dh use this vit protocall for 3 months and his results more than doubles for morphology. He went form a 3% to a 7% and we suprisingly found out we were pregnant before we got his results back. I am still waiting on my 2nd beta but my 1st was 576
    The following is what I had him take:
    1000mg Vit C
    200mg Pycnogenol
    2000mg L-Arganine
    1g Flax Seed Oil
    1800mg L-Carnitine
    50mg Zinc
    10,000 IU Vit A
    1,000IU Vit E
    B-50 Formula Complex
    and 2 mega men daily Vits from GNC...
    I am so happy that his morph improved so much right before I was supposed to start my 1st cycle


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    Dr Rispler's Office / IUI/IVF / Motility & Morph

    I25922: Congratulations on your pregnancy! I'm considering going to Dr Rispler's office for IUI/IVF if I don't get pg w/in a few months. I'm actually on CD 33. My cycle's probably longer than normal because I just started working out 4 times/wk 3 weeks ago. It would be nice if that wasn't the case. Anyway, if you don't mind me asking, since you got pg before your first cycle, were you refunded your $?

    Was the vitamin regimen that your DH was on directed by the dr? What is this regimen supposed to help with? My DH has 50% motility, and if the vitamins will help him w/ this, then I will definitely go by the vitamin store tomorrow. Also, what do you mean by morph?

    Thanks so much!


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    Hello.. Morph stands for morpholoy or shape of sperm... I loved Rispler... He was great. I literally brought in 4 pages of questions. He laughed about it but answered all of them. I went in for a consult, a new Sperm analysis and ultrasound to check out anatomy... measure ovarys etc. I think the total costs I had bere under $500.00 so not too bad. He was very happy for us and positive when we got pg on our own. I will say I liked him the best out of all the RE's cause he always said "we will get you pregnant". He also sat in on my pelviscopy. I have nothing but great things to say about him and his office. The only thing I would say is they don't really have a room for your Dh to go in for Semem analysis so I would say if you live close do the sample at home and bring it in. They offered him the public restroom so he asked to use a patient room so that he didn't feel like a perv. Let me know how things go.. I am on week 13
    Oh and Rispler did not reccommend the Vitamins. I got them from the book getting pregnant. He didn't really think the Vitamins would make a difference. I don't think many RE's do.


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    I know they always said that would happen but I wasn't willing to think about it.. So the last month we tried naturally there we go Are you pg right now? Or did you already have the baby?


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    Have you ever met with Dr Salem of the Pacific Reproductive Center in Torrance? I live in West Torrance, so it's closer to my home, but then I work in El Segundo, which is closer to Dr Rispler's office. I have a consultation with Dr Salem in 2 weeks.... I was wondering if there's a significant difference between him and his office and Dr's Rispler's. I read somewhere where you mentioned that your consultation was $150, but when I called Dr Rispler's office, the rep there said it was free. I probably should meet with Dr Rispler's office to compare the two. So far, it looks like Dr Rispler's fees are less than Dr Salem's (IUI is like $1805 w/ Dr Salem and $900-$1200 w/Dr Rispler). My insurance does not cover any infertility services (just up to diagnosis of infertility).

    Where any treatments and/or medications that you underwent that you think helped with your getting pregnancy? Also, may I ask who performed your hysteroscopy and laparoscopy? Were the procedures painful, and from your experience, is there anything for me to worry about if I ever need to get that done? I underwent the endometrial biopsy, and the pain was quite tremendous for me and last for about 4 minutes.

    Thanks so much for sharing your experience with me. It's really been helpful.


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