Primary Gang....February*!!!

[tdg119]

Happy Friday ladies...been quiet in here...except for me (lol) I've been quite chatty lately and I apologize, but I'm not stopping...

Kelcey - Sorry to hear you haven't heard anything back on the jobs yet...the hiring process can be so drawn out sometimes - but don't give up hope.

So there's a story this morning about the Octuplets woman and reading it just made me really angry. I can't believe she went on the record when all of the documentation that was released is so negative; not to mention half of it negates the things she claims. You'll have to check it out for yourselves.

I'm in kind of an angry/witchy mood today...hoping it's not a sign of PMS...woke up just on time...left the house just a couple minutes late and got stuck driving behind this doofus that always drives slow (35-40 in 55mph zone); I already got stuck behind him earlier this week and several times before that; I remember him b/c of his vanity plate. I was cursing him the whole way to work...I am a very punctual person and running late just eats away at me.

I finally started on my homework yesterday but only got the 1st of 3 parts done b4 heading home. I WILL work on it today so I can focus on the group project next week...

I have no plans for the weekend, but if it's warmer you can bet I'm going to air out the house and try to get out and do something. Last night we were at -3ºF at bedtime...suppose to go up to 55º - 60ºF on Sunday. I hope this is spring coming!

Quick, dumb question. I am on the prog. supp's...so that would screw w/ an HPT right?? I hope the answer is yes b/c it will take away the temptation to POAS next week.

Another question...how do you stay in shape during all this? I wasn't doing much exercise but I was doing some and had to stop it after the IUI. Do you just go full blast during the first half of your cycle? I feel like I'm starting to get pudgy and I don't like it!!

Ok, last but not least...what do you miss most during your IF treatments and/or what will you miss most when you're PG?

For me, it will be taking motorcycle rides with Ron. I LOVE riding; it makes me feel like nothing else can - certain sense of freedom when it's just you and the road (literally). In culmination with that...I'll miss Musikfest - it's this awesome huge music festival they have in the next town over - we always take the bike over - they serve 20oz mugs of beer that you can walk around the festival with; so we always meet friends, get drunk, sober up, and ride back home.

Well, I'll go bug people on Facebook now...Sorry for babbling

[imissmountains]

Tdg—I’ll have to read the article on the Octuplets lady this morning…just so I can drive myself nuts. As for bad drivers, I have one woman who I run into on occasion on my way to work. Now this woman thinks she is driving the Bat-Mobile in a traffic jam and apparently if she uses her signals her arm will fall off. It’s been many a happy morning that I’m cruising right along and she’ll veer quickly into my lane. I almost always honk at her, to which she crazily slams on her brakes in an apparent “dare” for me to hit her. Seeing how I drive a crappy car, I actually am always tempted just to slam into her. Of course, one doesn’t exactly “slam” into anyone while going 15mph.

Having a twin is great…having a pregnant twin is not so great. I get all the fantastic symptoms of being pregnant…this morning I almost got sick when I took a sniff of my coffee. This was only later topped off by dry heaves while I was in the middle of trying to tame my hair. Oh, and I can’t sleep either…which is great for my sister because I call her to complain and guess what…she can’t sleep either and enjoys our conversations. So I’m sleep deprived and in the mornings, feel rather sick to my tummy. My sister informed me that her morning sickness is 10 times worse then last time and apparently it lasts for the better part of the morning. Oh, happy times.

Kelcey…hang in there, hopefully you hear from one of the jobs soon.

As for me…I’m officially off of Lexapro now…Yay!!!! Now I’m just waiting for next week, when I get to use my OPK’s…I still wildly love the feeling of getting that smiley face.

As for staying in shape…I’m not sure…haven’t been there yet. But after I get the IUI I’m planning on no-body stress workouts…which is a lot of walking.

Hope everyone has a great day!

[sad_about_IF]

I apologise in advance that this is a long post, but here is my story of what I spent yesterday evening doing. During the afternoon at work I noticed that my left bicep was sore. I was wearing a dress shirt so I couldn't really roll up my sleeve and look, but I did think it was weird. When I got home and put on a short sleeve shirt I could see that the spot where they drew my blood on Weds AM was really red and angry looking, and there was this sharp, clear red line on my skin going up the inside of my bicep towards my shoulder/armpit - basically following along where my vein would be. So this is about 36 hours after my blood draw and I'm starting to wonder if the needle site from my bloodwork is infected and there is an infection creeping up my vein in my arm. By now it is evening and I can’t call my doctor so I phone our provincial health line to speak to a nurse. The nurse on the phone line said I needed to see a doctor b/c it could be cellulitis. This freaked me out b/c in my mind cellulitis can turn into the flesh eating disease, and/or I could get really sick if this infection progresses. So we went to our local hospital Emergency room and waited for hours.

After 4 and a half hours I was starting to go crazy b/c all of the people who were there before us were called in, and then other people were called in but not me. At one point I thought I heard my name called and went to check. I asked "did you call my name?" And she was pretty curt and said "I didn't hear anyone call anybody's name" and sent me away to wait some more.

And of course you know that the ER is full of 1) really sick people who don’t really want to be there and 2) some of these sick people are also major weirdos. By this I mean one particular man who was high on crystal meth and who wanted to tell everyone about it, and various other relatively unsavoury characters. The ER is definitely not my favourite place to hang out (and I work in a hospital every day!)

DH and I knew that we’d be waiting a long time and brought books with us. But so much time went by, I was starting to get upset because 1) my arm hurts, 2) I’m worried, and 3) I'm so tired and feel like we're never going to get called in. I asked DH to go up to the nurses b/c he is very polite (at this point I’m beyond being able to ensure I won’t just burst out crying) so he can ask how much longer it was going to be. The nurse was really rude to him and said "we've called her name several times already" – at which point DH got into an argument with her b/c they definitely had NOT called my name EVER. We were sitting right there by the triage desk, listening our little hearts out for HOURS. Plus, the nurse who said they’d called my name repeatedly was the same person who told me earlier that she HADN’T called my name. I know that the ER staff are understaffed and overworked, but to see that they really didn’t give a crap was pretty disheartening. I know I wasn’t in a car crash or bleeding from a head wound, and that everyone thinks their issue is important. I know that they have to triage based on urgency of each patient, but don’t I deserve the same common courtesy anyone else does?

So after DH kicked up a fuss, they brought us through immediately to this other area where we had to sit and wait with tons of other people for another hour. Crystal meth man was gone, but instead we got a woman who was admitted for alcohol poisoning and she was gabbing away about how many IV bags they’d put into her in the past 12 hours so she could be rehydrated. When we eventually saw the doctor, she was very nice. She spent about 3 minutes with us all together, agreed I had an infection and gave me a prescription for antibiotics. I was assured that this medication would be safe for me to take, and that was it. We were out of there at 2:30 am and poor DH had to be up early for an important meeting. Thankfully, I didn’t have to work today.

It just seemed so strange that after all that we have been through, we’re doing ok and then I end up with a stupid infection from my blood draw???? WTH???? I know that I probably shouldn’t complain because this a relatively minor issue and there are so many people out there who have it worse. It was just a good reminder to treat people as you wish to be treated (not that I think I'd ever consciously behave like the mean nurse). No doubt the ER nurses have to deal with a ton of crap, but it makes me sad to think that they really are so bitter that they just don't seem to care anymore.

ANYWAY - enough of my rambling. Tiffany I was going to post a link to that Octuplets story too. Thank you for doing that. Speaking of crazy stories, did you guys hear about the 60 year old woman who had IVF? If you're curious to know more here is the link:
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/calgary/sto...ld-mother.html

Hope that you're all keeping well. Take care - I'm sending everyone sticky vibes!!!!!!

[QueenValerie]

Hello*!!! sorry not to be "personal" but I wanted to Xpost this....

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Hello*!!! I again wanted to thank everyone for your wonderful support*!!! {{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}} I swear my emotions have been through the ringer in the past couple days and I dragged you all right with me. Soooo we know that things didn't go as the silly HPT's were pointing... BUT after some much needed rest and many tears and yelling and all I am doing much better today. Hahaha and why not add a slap in the face.... cd=1 on top of it. So I was in debate in my furry last night about doing another cycle or waiting a month....and my loving hubby convinced me that we should just right back at it. Sooooo I will be starting my femara again on SUN....

So there ya have it.....
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tdg~~OMG I would have been soooooooo swering at the putz slowing me down as well*!!! I am not sure about progesteron suppositories, but I would say because of my lovely experiences with HPT's to stay away.... (remind me of this in 3 weeks or so....) eekkksss sorry as far as excercising.....hahaha what is that??? No really I am a lazy BUM and today I started thinking that maybe some walking or something would be good for me. I don't want to be all that lazy and not be able to do anything once pg. As far as what I will miss....well nascar....haha well infeild at MIS is a big drunkfest....and yes I will take a belly over getting drunk, but being a sober perosn infeild will be odd....hahaha BUT it can still happen.... June and August are the races. Okay now I sound like a drunk....but being that it is cd=1 I would love a big box of wine or a 30 pack of beer....hahaha BTW you are never bugging us silly.....

Imiss~~now you know I think I have that same person flying in my area.... and seeing that I drive a 88 ford bronco on a 6 inch lift I swear I can just bam into someone and feel a little rock of the truck....teeheehee noooooo I haven't done it, but the thought brings a smile to my face... (NO I Haven't had any drinkies today)

sad~~ohhh man I am sorry ot hear about your fun filled night at the ER*!!! I sure hope the antibiotics work okay for you and that the infection clears up quickly*!!!!

[tdg119]

Sad - Wow, what are the odds? I mean I realize how many times we get stuck for blood b/c of the IF cycles, but still... You and your DH showed far more patience then I think I'd have (and definitely more then my DH has). In any case, I'm glad you got it taken care of so you don't have to worry! As for the 60 yr old IVF mother; they actually had a story back in June about a 72-year old Indian woman who did IVF and gave birth - I must admit that while it's amazing and gives hope, I am against it, only because there is a great chance those mothers will pass away before their child reaches adulthood...not to mention the ability to keep up with the child in the early years.

Valerie - I'll have to look for you on the TV whenever an MIS race is on...I can just picture it now - they'll do a scroll over the infield and there'll be a sober pregnant woman and I'll just know it's you... LOL. Sorry about the HPT's fooling with you, but happy to hear you'll be cycling with us this month. I haven't decided for sure whether I want to POAS next week...think I may be better off just waiting for beta. To be honest I am just in the mindset that it'll be negative anyways.

Nothing else new here...I'm officially home for the weekend (yay!!). Just waiting for DH to get home in an hour and hopefully he's in a happy, fun mood. He's been in and out of being stressed from work all week...hopefully the weekend will give him cause to relax.

Have a good night everyone

[MT_firegirl]

ok, so I'm back to do personals...LOL

Tdg..I'm totally with you on the witchy mood. I don't know what's wrong with me but I swear I need to change my name to "Miss Polly Pissy Pants" today because I am just in the mood to slap someone! And for no particular reason. I just feel.....um..."edgy" yeah, that's the word. And no, progesterone does NOT affect the result of HPT's. I know, I know, not what you want to hear.. The only hormone detected by HPT is Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) which is produced by the developing chorionic sac in pregnancy. So POAS away and let us know how it goes. AFM, I think I'm going to try and wait for my beta, but I never actually make it...*sigh*..I'm weak..LOL

mountains...that has to be really hard having a pg twin. I mean, you're happy for her and at the same time sad for yourself. Congrats on finally being all of the way off of your Lexapro. How are you feeling??? I felt a little "off" after I finally finished all of my effexor...like something was missing, but that has gradually gone away. I'm still excited for you for your insemination...I just have a good feeling about it!

Sad...I would be TOTALLY pissed about your arm. It sounds like what you have is called thrombophlebitis or maybe even just phlebitis which is an infection in a vein after a lab draw. The crappy part is that it is caused by poor aseptic (clean) technique when drawing blood. I would totally go back to the lab and give them 6 kinds of hell! To me, that is just inexcusable! I'm trying to be sensitive to all of us, but just know that I'm happy for you in life. (does that come across ok?? I'll remove it if anyone is hurt by it obviously...would never want to hurt my girls )

Valerie...I started totally laughing when I looked at your reputation bar because it says that you are a name known to all....of course you are...America's Most Wanted just had you on the news the other day..LMAO ok, not really. Sweety, I'm so sorry that your cycle this previous month was a bust and I was really praying for you and your little bean. You'll get there, I swear....I had a dream about you and Ken and your little sweet baby about 4 days ago....and I'm a pretty vivid dreamer...In my dream you were inviting me and James to Michigan for a birthday party and we were getting ready to drive there, so I just know that your baby is coming to you. I'm always here for you (and all of the ladies here!)

linden...thinking about you! How are you hanging in there???

AFM...I'm in a totally pissy mood, and I'm exhaustively tired, but I think its the progesterone...We're pet sitting my SIL's cats and they are sooo lovey, so you would think that would help to improve my mood, but no such luck since I have to drive 30 miles to feed them twice a day..ugh! I did find out that the intervire lady from the Infertility Clinic slipped on the ice the other day and has taken a few days off to recover from a pretty bruised hip, so I don't feel as dissed about my chances. I had another interview yesterday and I was shocked when the office manager that interviewed me had 3 facial piercings....In a dr's office???? Yikes!!! The weather here has become totally crappy with more rain and ice on top of the snow so I'm terrified of busting my arse (like I did last time) so I'm tippy-toeing arounf trying to make sure I don't biff it! Yuck!! I hate weather like this...ok, well I think I'm going to lay down and take a little nap...it might clear up my crappy mood....Hugs to you all!!!

[sad_about_IF]

Kelcey - You are right about the aseptic thing and my arm. I noticed that the blood lab person had the needle all ready and was about to jab me but hadn't done the alcohol swab yet. I was about to say something about it to her, but the she appeared to remember and did a teeny little swipe with the alcohol swab. I remember all of this b/c usually they do a really good job cleaning that part of your arm before they jab you, and she just did a little swipe once. I suspect this is the cause. The blood lab is at my RE's office and when I phoned them today they were really upset to hear about it. They have reported it as an incident in the lab and will follow-up with the appropriate people, so hopefully it doesn't happen to anyone else. I'm glad to hear that there is an explanation for the delay in hearing back about the job by the way - but I'm sorry that woman fell and hurt herself.

Mountains - It fascinates me that you and your twin (identical?) have such a strong connection that you feel sick when she does. I am just sorry that you have to go through all the barfy stuff! Hopefully you'll eventually give her the reciprocal experience ;-)

Tiffany - I get road rage when I get stuck behind slow-pokes on the road like that too. I hope that your DH is in a great mood when he gets home and you have a lovely weekend together. You mentioned being able to do exercise during an IUI cycle - my RE said it really varies. If you have been active before going through your treatment, you should be ok to continue at a similar level during it, but you should listen to your body and try not to overdo it. They wouldn't suggest that you start doing hard core aerobics or jogging during a treatment cycle if you've never exercised before. What they said to me is that the exercise probably won't make a big difference in the end, but that you might feel regretful and have a lot of "what ifs" about the exercise being to blame if you get a BFN. In that situation they wouldn't be able to tell you if the exercise was or wasn't responsible for the outcome. I know it is cold out but you can always try going for walks just to burn off some energy (even on a treadmill) - that is a low-impact compromise.

Val - I'm sorry that this month wasn't "the one", but am glad to hear that you and DH are going to get right back on that wagon and try again this cycle. Fingers and toes crossed 100%!!!

Hope you're all keeping well - I'll cut myself off now b/c I think I've maxed out my quota for long posts on FT today! Take care - thinking of you ladies xoxo

[tiredofBFN]

Hi ladies,

Val - I haven't had a chance to send you my hugs yet.... ((((((((((((hugs)))))))))))))) - I'm so sorry that this month wasn't the one for you. I just know that it is right around the corner for you... so I'm very happy to hear that you're trying again right away. (I am still very surprised in regards to the two faulty tests. Maybe knowing how many faulty ones there are out there will prevent us from POAS so often..... OK, who am I kidding? I know I won't be able to stop!!)

Sad - what are the odds really? That after all of the blood draws, this last one gives you an infection? tsk, tsk, they should be ashamed of themselves. I'm glad you reported it to your RE's office. It's unacceptable.... but I'm glad you've started your antibiotics and you're on the road to recovery! Now no more bumps in the road for you.....

Kelcey - I hope your mood is a bit better today? Maybe it's the mid-2ww blues. Knowing we've survived the first week of the 2ww, but also knowing there's one more to go. Sigh...... I'm going to try holding off POAS too ... maybe we could try to make a bit of a deal. If you don't POAS, I won't either! LOL! A new support group for the POAS addicts! I so hope you hear back from the Fertility clinic about the job. I can't believe there's a better fit out there. This one belongs to you for sure!

Tiffany - Hope you spent a nice evening with DH. It's always nice when you start the weekend off on the right foot. And I hope you're feeling a bit better today... I understand the road rage and the irritability with idiots on road too. Sometimes I think it's my stress from the drive every day that prevents me from getting pg. I need to find some relaxation techniques for the drive to work every day... Let us know if you do POAS. Do you want to join my new support group for POAS addicts? I'm trying to recruit!

Imiss - that would be so cool having such a strong connection to your twin... of course I know you might disagree with me during the 'run to the bathroom' moments! Ah well, when it's your own morning sickness, at least you'll have experienced it before ... It won't be a total surprise! I'll likely be doing my first IUI in March too, so maybe we'll be cycling together. I think March would be a great month to get pregnant!

Deb and Linden - how are you ladies doing?

Well we're off to pick up our cross country skis today. However, it's supposed to rain today so I guess that doesn't make for ideal skiing weather. Maybe we'll be able to try them out before the rain hits... I'm hoping to convince Ron to go out for breakfast too. Not sure if everyone has heard of Cora's but it's my favourite breakfast place. It's pretty expensive so we don't go often, but mmmmmmmm, fruit-filled crepes .... my favourite! I love restaurants, but Ron tries to keep me in check! Other than that, just trying to keep busy. One more week in my 2ww. I'm not really expecting any positive results as this was a natural cycle for us. But on rare occasions, miracles do happen, so who am I to turn one down? I'll still be stressed and impatient the closer I get to day 28, but I'm also looking forward to day 1. Then I finally get my FSH level done and I can finally make my decision in regards to IUI vs. IVF. Then I can get the plan in motion. And we're all about the plan, right ladies? I know I need one to stay sane....
Hope everyone has a great weekend! Sticky vibes to all of you!!

[imissmountains]

Hello everyone...we are a busy group!

Okay, in hindsight, I really have to thank the powers that be that I wasn't ready for my IUI this month. The last two days have actually taken me on trip to wacky land. I can't sleep enough and when I'm awake I'm such a joy to be with that my wife takes the dog on hour walks.

Mt--would you mind sharing your title of "Ms. Pissy Pants?"

Recovering now...at least I seem to have gotten my brain back...


As for having a pregnant twin...it's actually quite wonderful. The reason is that we perfectly understand each other. Also, I love my neice so much that I hope my sister can have another one just like her.


Anyone have any plans for Valentines Day? I think we are going to try to be low-key this year...steaks on the grill, etc...quite evening at home.

[MT_firegirl]

ok, so I started feeling...um..."weird" ? last night....could be pg sx/sx, could not but either way, I just feel "weird" hard to even explain....like I'm tired but restless, have to pee a lot but I'm dehydrated, urpy but I'm starving, and totally amorous but I'm irritated and don't want to be touched...LOL I'm 7dpo today so still a ways to go...not quite the "pissy pants" I was the other day, but I was smart enough to call into work or I fear I may have just ended up getting fired in the long run....LOL

I'm watching J and his brother play the wii and it is sooo funny...they are cute when they're together and I love listening to J laugh when he and his brother get to goofing off....its the best sound ever!

Sad...I would be sooo mad about your arm! I'm glad that the office is taking it seriously because that is definitley a serious deal. One little swipe with an alcohol swab is NOT cleaning before a venipuncture!

Tired...I always WANT to POAS, but I get so upset seeing a BFN, that I figure that its actually easier to let someone else give me the bad news..LOL I'm not actually patient, just a chicken$hit....LOL

Mountains...How are you feeling since you stopped your Lexapro? I'm glad that you can look back with a little hindsight and I will gladly relinquish the title of "Miss Polly Pissy Pants" to you...

Deb..J and I were watching the weather channel this morning and they were showing your fabulous 103 degree temps over that way..Sounds awesome! (ok, not at all)..They also showed the cutest little Koala in a bucket on someone's back porch somewhere in Oz....it was so cute, it was almost easy to forget that they have std's, huge claws and would bite you in a second...LOL

Val..Are you starting your Femara tomorrow?

Linden..How's life treating you this weekend? Anything fun going on??

Ok, as for me....I made some chicken salad that we've all been munching on (canned of course, let's not get crazy now..lol) and we're planning on grilling some pork chops outside this evening..It's a balmy 40 degrees and the snow is melting (thank goodness) so we're loving the sunshine and warm temps.

Thank goodness I called in *cough cough* *sniffle sniffle* LOL