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meggybou · 08-09-2009, 06:03 AM

I've been diagnosed with PCOS and pre diabetes since 2003. I've been treating my conditions with metformin and birth control. (I take the birth control to get my menstral cycle.) My fiancee and I have been ready to get to baby making, but he's finishing school in Las Vegas, Nevada (I'm in Connecticut) and so we only see each other for two weeks every six months or so. Finally, he will be moving here in May 2010!

Only ten more months, haha. Recently I have found a reproductive endocrynologist. (sp?) He was really nice and knew exactly what he was talking about. Unlike most doctors I have seen. He added a new diagnoses that sort of confuses me, and I was wondering if any of you would know what it is. It's called oligomenorrhea. He said it was common in women with PCOS, and I think that term means that I push out more than one egg a month because he noticed that I produce four eggs a month, and so if I were to take clomid, a most likely senario would be that all eggs can be fertilized. I'm not positive if that is the definition of oligomenorrhea, but if you are, please help! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!

luv_721 · 08-09-2009, 09:47 PM

Oligomenorrhea is the term used to describe infrequent or very light menstruation in a woman with previously normal periods.

I have many folies each month but do not O due to the PCOS. Your body will make a choice which folie it wants. I do not think you O all four folies(eggs)
Yes there is a chance with Clomid of more than one folie developing but not HUGE like other treatments.
Seems that if you want to get PG you first need find out if O on your own some women with PCOS will O just little longer out.
Well hope this helps take care and good luck

meggybou · 08-10-2009, 04:03 AM

I do not ovulate on my own, I have low pegesterone (sp?), but the doctor says that if he were to give me clomid, that will make me ovulate for all four eggs.

luv_721 · 08-10-2009, 11:17 AM

meggybou- Humm well I disagree about you O all four eggs. Because you are not Oing on your own. The reason the Progest is LOW is because you are not Oing.
You need to get Oing to see what your Progest is truely.
I have been TTC for 8yr and have had 3m/c.
I have done Clomid, Femara,Injection meds(Lupron, Follistim,Menopur,Rexpronex)
I made 5 follies ONE Cycle and that was with Injection Meds.

What is your real question??? How may I tuely Help you???
Oligomenorrhea is the term used to describe infrequent or very light menstruation in a woman with previously normal periods.
It does not mean you O more Eggs.

I wish you all the best. Maybe if your RE believes it is to risky to use CLomid try a different med.

Ferret Mommy · 08-10-2009, 01:31 PM

Hi! Welcome!

I found this on Wiki:

Quote:

Oligomenorrhea is the medical term for infrequent uterine bleeding episodes with intervals of more than 35 days. The duration of such events may vary.[1]

When you are on clomid, it does not make you ovulate, but grow your eggs so that you can ovulate. If you are not ovulating on your own, then you may need a medication to induce actual egg release.

When I took clomid, there were times that I did not ovulate, although I was given the medication to grow follies. This was proven by low progesterone 7 days of when I had a temp shift showing Ovulation. I was close, but not enough to release an egg. (At this time I was told I could not be dx as PCOS due to not enough time off BCPs.. even though it was over a year)
For me now, I am doing metformin and have been O'ing and much regular than before met.

I would ask your RE why they think you would release 4 eggs while on clomid. Each month, you usually have more than one follie growing, the biggest (most mature) is the one that is normally released.

Best of luck to you!

meggybou · 08-10-2009, 04:26 PM

Okay, Luv, I'm just telling you what my doctor said. I'm here for information and support, and if you can't do that, please, do not write me. As for you questioning my questions, you answered my first question. I wanted to know what oligomenorrhea was. When the topic of ovulating and clomid came up, obviously there was a misunderstanding. I ovulate on my own SOMETIMES, but it is rare. Yes, my eggs come out, but they stay out due to my lack of progesterone production. They collect in my ovaries and then they are called cysts, or follies. There is no risk for me to take clomid. I am very young and my body can handle it.

And Ferret mommy, thank you so much for explaining things to me in a kind and caring manner. Actually, Ferret, I produce four eggs a month on my own. It's a genetic trait in my family to have multiple births. (When my doctor diagnosed me with oligomenorrhea, I thought that was the term to describe the multiple eggs per month.) I am on metformin, but all I see is my insulin level dropping. Then again, when they tested my body for pegesterone to see if I had ovulated, I had been off metformin and birth control for a few months because of a diagnoses mix up. Long story short, my obgyn sucks, haha. I have to find a new one. Anyway, while I'm on birth control, there is no way of telling if I am ovulating or not. I am told that while on birth control women do not ovulate. Thank you so much for your information and kindess!!!

luv_721 · 08-10-2009, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by meggybou

When the topic of ovulating and clomid came up, obviously there was a misunderstanding. I ovulate on my own SOMETIMES, but it is rare. Yes, my eggs come out, but they stay out due to my lack of progesterone production. They collect in my ovaries and then they are called cysts, or follies. There is no risk for me to take clomid. I am very young and my body can handle it.

First of all I am not ??? your ??? I did not understand what you were wanting info about.
So I did missunderstand Sorry
I tell you of my story to help not hinder. I do ovulate on my own every once in a while as you.
I thought when you said the statement about clomid that ment it was to much of a risk due to the 4 eggs. I just wanted to share there were other meds out there to help you O and get to your goal of a baby.
PCOS is a crazy little beast and not understood well.
They are changing PCOS information always. An article the other day and the medical community is changing the name. From PCOS to Cronic Annovulation. Seems there is always changes happening.
I wish all the luck in the world.

meggybou · 08-10-2009, 06:51 PM

Well, Luv, thank you for being understanding. This is a VERY tough Syndrome to live with, especially if your calling in life is to be a mother. I wish you all the luck in the world, as well. I obviously need more information on the possible treatments to help me and my fiancee finally have the miracle we deserve. If you have any other helpful information, please contact me. By the way, has anyone heard of soul cysters . com? I've used to, but it was no use. Is that website worth my time?

Ferret Mommy · 08-10-2009, 07:14 PM

I have gotten some info from that site.. but only through google.

As for ovulating...

No, you will not ovulate while on BCPs. That is how it works as a BCP.

So in a cycle you have estrogen buildup... the release of LH then the release of an egg(s) then that is when the progesterone kicks in. Once an egg is fertilized then the progest stays up and goes higher... if no egg fert then the the progesterone drops off.. you get AF and it starts over.

(that is the really quick, what I remember version.. lol)

So, clomid works by blocking the estrogen receptors inwhich return produce more estrogen... (that is why the hotflashes) when you are done taking the clomid the body goes back, but there is all this extra estrogen that has build up and hopefully helped grow follies... inwhich should bring an LH surge...

As for growing 4 follies.. do you mean you release or are able to release them? So like you normally have 4 mature at the time of ovulation?

If you take clomid you do run the risk for even more follies with also the potential of releasing more than one. I wonder if you continue on Metformin, or get back on it if you will ovulate on your own since you have no issues growing follies? All else being you get a trigger of LH to release the eggs (induce O) and that could be all that you need!! (hopefully

)

luv_721 · 08-10-2009, 08:01 PM

Good glad we are on the same page.
Join us in the weekly update thread.

I think we can support you in day to day journey.
Yes this an awful thing when you want to be a mother so BAD. I have been TTC for 8yrs. And it has been the worst thing I have ever had to deal with.
When you start a treatment we can help cuz alot of us have been through it before.
Like Clomid I took it and hated the stuff it was awful the Hotflashes were so bad.
Did you know that Met really can help you alot to O again on your own without any other treatment. You may be one of the lucky ones since you are young and good health.
Ferrtmommy is one of the lucky ones that Met helped get a normal AF cycle going.
I take Met but it did not get me going again because I have more than just one issue.
Do you get any gastric side effects from the MET??
I know I do and it is awful when I eat to much sugar and carbs. So I live lower carb these days.
Good LUCK hun

08-09-2009, 06:03 AM	#1 (permalink)
meggybou 0-99 post 2 of hearts Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Connecticut Posts: 7	I'm new to the site! I've been diagnosed with PCOS and pre diabetes since 2003. I've been treating my conditions with metformin and birth control. (I take the birth control to get my menstral cycle.) My fiancee and I have been ready to get to baby making, but he's finishing school in Las Vegas, Nevada (I'm in Connecticut) and so we only see each other for two weeks every six months or so. Finally, he will be moving here in May 2010! Only ten more months, haha. Recently I have found a reproductive endocrynologist. (sp?) He was really nice and knew exactly what he was talking about. Unlike most doctors I have seen. He added a new diagnoses that sort of confuses me, and I was wondering if any of you would know what it is. It's called oligomenorrhea. He said it was common in women with PCOS, and I think that term means that I push out more than one egg a month because he noticed that I produce four eggs a month, and so if I were to take clomid, a most likely senario would be that all eggs can be fertilized. I'm not positive if that is the definition of oligomenorrhea, but if you are, please help! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!

08-09-2009, 09:47 PM	#2 (permalink)
luv_721 300-399 post 5 of hearts Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 386	Oligomenorrhea is the term used to describe infrequent or very light menstruation in a woman with previously normal periods. I have many folies each month but do not O due to the PCOS. Your body will make a choice which folie it wants. I do not think you O all four folies(eggs) Yes there is a chance with Clomid of more than one folie developing but not HUGE like other treatments. Seems that if you want to get PG you first need find out if O on your own some women with PCOS will O just little longer out. Well hope this helps take care and good luck __________________ Winnie An insincere and evil friend is more to be feared than a wild beast; a wild beast may wound your body, but an evil friend will wound your mind. Buddha

08-10-2009, 11:17 AM	#4 (permalink)
luv_721 300-399 post 5 of hearts Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 386	meggybou- Humm well I disagree about you O all four eggs. Because you are not Oing on your own. The reason the Progest is LOW is because you are not Oing. You need to get Oing to see what your Progest is truely. I have been TTC for 8yr and have had 3m/c. I have done Clomid, Femara,Injection meds(Lupron, Follistim,Menopur,Rexpronex) I made 5 follies ONE Cycle and that was with Injection Meds. What is your real question??? How may I tuely Help you??? Oligomenorrhea is the term used to describe infrequent or very light menstruation in a woman with previously normal periods. It does not mean you O more Eggs. I wish you all the best. Maybe if your RE believes it is to risky to use CLomid try a different med. __________________ Winnie An insincere and evil friend is more to be feared than a wild beast; a wild beast may wound your body, but an evil friend will wound your mind. Buddha

08-10-2009, 08:01 PM	#10 (permalink)
luv_721 300-399 post 5 of hearts Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 386	Good glad we are on the same page. Join us in the weekly update thread. I think we can support you in day to day journey. Yes this an awful thing when you want to be a mother so BAD. I have been TTC for 8yrs. And it has been the worst thing I have ever had to deal with. When you start a treatment we can help cuz alot of us have been through it before. Like Clomid I took it and hated the stuff it was awful the Hotflashes were so bad. Did you know that Met really can help you alot to O again on your own without any other treatment. You may be one of the lucky ones since you are young and good health. Ferrtmommy is one of the lucky ones that Met helped get a normal AF cycle going. I take Met but it did not get me going again because I have more than just one issue. Do you get any gastric side effects from the MET?? I know I do and it is awful when I eat to much sugar and carbs. So I live lower carb these days. Good LUCK hun __________________ Winnie An insincere and evil friend is more to be feared than a wild beast; a wild beast may wound your body, but an evil friend will wound your mind. Buddha

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08-10-2009, 04:03 AM	#3 (permalink)
meggybou 0-99 post 2 of hearts Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Connecticut Posts: 7	I do not ovulate on my own, I have low pegesterone (sp?), but the doctor says that if he were to give me clomid, that will make me ovulate for all four eggs.

08-10-2009, 04:26 PM	#6 (permalink)
meggybou 0-99 post 2 of hearts Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Connecticut Posts: 7	Okay, Luv, I'm just telling you what my doctor said. I'm here for information and support, and if you can't do that, please, do not write me. As for you questioning my questions, you answered my first question. I wanted to know what oligomenorrhea was. When the topic of ovulating and clomid came up, obviously there was a misunderstanding. I ovulate on my own SOMETIMES, but it is rare. Yes, my eggs come out, but they stay out due to my lack of progesterone production. They collect in my ovaries and then they are called cysts, or follies. There is no risk for me to take clomid. I am very young and my body can handle it. And Ferret mommy, thank you so much for explaining things to me in a kind and caring manner. Actually, Ferret, I produce four eggs a month on my own. It's a genetic trait in my family to have multiple births. (When my doctor diagnosed me with oligomenorrhea, I thought that was the term to describe the multiple eggs per month.) I am on metformin, but all I see is my insulin level dropping. Then again, when they tested my body for pegesterone to see if I had ovulated, I had been off metformin and birth control for a few months because of a diagnoses mix up. Long story short, my obgyn sucks, haha. I have to find a new one. Anyway, while I'm on birth control, there is no way of telling if I am ovulating or not. I am told that while on birth control women do not ovulate. Thank you so much for your information and kindess!!!

08-10-2009, 06:51 PM	#8 (permalink)
meggybou 0-99 post 2 of hearts Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Connecticut Posts: 7	Well, Luv, thank you for being understanding. This is a VERY tough Syndrome to live with, especially if your calling in life is to be a mother. I wish you all the luck in the world, as well. I obviously need more information on the possible treatments to help me and my fiancee finally have the miracle we deserve. If you have any other helpful information, please contact me. By the way, has anyone heard of soul cysters . com? I've used to, but it was no use. Is that website worth my time?

08-10-2009, 07:14 PM	#9 (permalink)
Ferret Mommy 10000-15000 post ace of hearts Join Date: May 2005 Location: In My Place Posts: 10,907 Blog Entries: 42	I have gotten some info from that site.. but only through google. As for ovulating... No, you will not ovulate while on BCPs. That is how it works as a BCP. So in a cycle you have estrogen buildup... the release of LH then the release of an egg(s) then that is when the progesterone kicks in. Once an egg is fertilized then the progest stays up and goes higher... if no egg fert then the the progesterone drops off.. you get AF and it starts over. (that is the really quick, what I remember version.. lol) So, clomid works by blocking the estrogen receptors inwhich return produce more estrogen... (that is why the hotflashes) when you are done taking the clomid the body goes back, but there is all this extra estrogen that has build up and hopefully helped grow follies... inwhich should bring an LH surge... As for growing 4 follies.. do you mean you release or are able to release them? So like you normally have 4 mature at the time of ovulation? If you take clomid you do run the risk for even more follies with also the potential of releasing more than one. I wonder if you continue on Metformin, or get back on it if you will ovulate on your own since you have no issues growing follies? All else being you get a trigger of LH to release the eggs (induce O) and that could be all that you need!! (hopefully )