WHO vs. Kruger

IT_Guru · 09-20-2009, 06:55 PM

I got back my SA results a while back and today we went to see a NEW RE. He wants to repeat the SA but this time do it based on Kruger and not WHO. I do have a couple is issues in the SA, high volume and low morphology. My question here is if I have low morphology according to WHO is there a chance to have a normal morphology according to Kruger?

lilpink003 · 09-20-2009, 06:59 PM

from what I know kruger is a more strict SA

IT_Guru · 09-20-2009, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by lilpink003

from what I know kruger is a more strict SA

Correct it is but I guess my question has anyone had a low WHO number but the Kruger is within the 4-15%.

malley · 09-21-2009, 07:32 AM

dont think so. krueger uses stricter criteria for analysis.

GoldArlene · 09-30-2009, 02:05 PM

Here is an explanation from an embryologist on another board I follow:
http://fertilegrounds.dominionfertil...le-infertility

IT_Guru · 10-01-2009, 08:20 AM

That's a good explanation, thanks for pointing me in the direction of the thread.

IT_Guru · 10-08-2009, 10:33 AM

The results are in.

18% WHO and 2% Kruger.

So I guess no you can't have a low WHO number and a normal Kruger number.

I do question the lab that did it as the WHO handbook 4th edition states that you should look at 200 sperm cells and I know that they only looked at 100. Another question would be did they do this when they were moving or after they died?

09-20-2009, 06:55 PM	#1 (permalink)
IT_Guru 0-99 post 2 of hearts Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New York Posts: 61	WHO vs. Kruger I got back my SA results a while back and today we went to see a NEW RE. He wants to repeat the SA but this time do it based on Kruger and not WHO. I do have a couple is issues in the SA, high volume and low morphology. My question here is if I have low morphology according to WHO is there a chance to have a normal morphology according to Kruger? __________________ Me(32) DW (36) Married: Sep 2004 Diagnosis: DW low p4 / Poor SA results (low Testosterone) Feb 2008: DS IUI #1 July 20 '09 @ 5mg Farmara & Ovidril -- BFN Sep 24 '09 - Starting Clomid IUI #2 November 06 '09 -- BFN

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lilpink003 5000-9999 post king of hearts Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 5,298 Blog Entries: 11	from what I know kruger is a more strict SA __________________ Wait on the LORD: be of good courage, and he shall strengthen thine heart: wait, I say, on the LORD." (Psalm 27:14) My current Auction on the LA board

09-30-2009, 02:05 PM	#5 (permalink)
GoldArlene 0-99 post 2 of hearts Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 4	Kruger morphology Here is an explanation from an embryologist on another board I follow: http://fertilegrounds.dominionfertil...le-infertility

10-01-2009, 08:20 AM	#6 (permalink)
IT_Guru 0-99 post 2 of hearts Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New York Posts: 61	That's a good explanation, thanks for pointing me in the direction of the thread. __________________ Me(32) DW (36) Married: Sep 2004 Diagnosis: DW low p4 / Poor SA results (low Testosterone) Feb 2008: DS IUI #1 July 20 '09 @ 5mg Farmara & Ovidril -- BFN Sep 24 '09 - Starting Clomid IUI #2 November 06 '09 -- BFN

10-08-2009, 10:33 AM	#7 (permalink)
IT_Guru 0-99 post 2 of hearts Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New York Posts: 61	The results are in. 18% WHO and 2% Kruger. So I guess no you can't have a low WHO number and a normal Kruger number. I do question the lab that did it as the WHO handbook 4th edition states that you should look at 200 sperm cells and I know that they only looked at 100. Another question would be did they do this when they were moving or after they died? __________________ Me(32) DW (36) Married: Sep 2004 Diagnosis: DW low p4 / Poor SA results (low Testosterone) Feb 2008: DS IUI #1 July 20 '09 @ 5mg Farmara & Ovidril -- BFN Sep 24 '09 - Starting Clomid IUI #2 November 06 '09 -- BFN

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09-21-2009, 07:32 AM	#4 (permalink)
malley 0-99 post 2 of hearts Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: nassau county, ny Posts: 11	dont think so. krueger uses stricter criteria for analysis.

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