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Old 05-22-2006, 01:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Zero sperm (child Ment)

Hi, I usually just use this site for my own IF, but I just got off the phone with a girlfriend who has be ttc #2 for awhile. Anyway, she and dh just got tested and the sperm analysis came back that he had 0 sperm.

Can in the span of 4 years this happen so drastically? Why?

Any ideas of what could have happened?

Any idea of the liklihood it could be fixed? Any experience with this at all? Any kind of information you could provide will be great. I'd like to get a lot of insight so I can talk to her more about this. (Dh and I are IF due to my issues, so I just don't know a lot about male factor) Thanks so much!


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Old 05-22-2006, 07:33 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hi, I'm sorry about your friend. I'll try and help by telling what we've been thru. My Dh has an 8 yr old from his first marriage (yes, she looks just like him). We got him tested after 6 mo of ttc, even though my OB said it was a waste of money. Lo and behold, no sperm. We went to a urologist who repeated it and did hormone levels. The second SA showed a few hundred thousand sperm. no motility/morph could be done b/c so few. The hormone levels came back slightly abnormal. On to the endocrinologist who repeated the tests, everything normal, hopes dashed for easy fix. The to the RE who did a sa with swim up, none swam, only way to use his sperm is thru testicular biopsy that MIGHT find some sperm. Luckily, they got plenty. The sperm do fertilize my eggs, but we have had 2 fresh and one fet failure. Since there must be a blockage, we are meeting with a urologist in June who specializes in microsurgery to see if this can be fixed before we throw down more cash that we don't have at ivf. I'm sorry I don't yet have the happy ending to tell your friend, but definitely see a urologist who specializes in infertility. It has been hard, and my DH says it is hard b/c he doesn't want to talk to his friends about it, so he has no one but me to support him with is feelings of guilt and inadequacy. Tell them to be kind to each other.
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Old 05-22-2006, 09:56 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Yes it can happen. Here is part of our story from my blog. http://infertilereflections.blogspot.com/


Since one of Joe’s ex-wives had a miscarriage while they were married and a girl friend once told him she had an abortion we figured he would pass with flying colors. We were shocked when he didn’t. Azoospermia ~ the complete absence of sperm. None! Nada! Zero! Zip! The Urologist (UR) asked if he’d had a vasectomy; like that’s something he might have forgotten. After that he mentioned that the testosterone replacement that Joe had been taking for a couple of years since he had been diagnosed with very low testosterone; could effect sperm production. I did have some inkling that it could lower his counts, but no idea that it could completely stop it. Besides I thought it was only when testosterone was being abused and the level got too high that it was a problem and Joe’s level was slap dab in the middle range of normal.

The options the UR gave us were for Joe to quit taking the supplements for 3 months and see if that worked or to do a biopsy of his testicles to see if he had any sperm or sperm producing cells. He also suggested an US of his testicles to check for blockages, since Joe’s exam showed no signs of Varicocele. (enlarged veins that can cause lower sperm counts) The US came back clear and after 3 months off the testosterone Joe felt awful because his hormone level was so low and his sperm count was still zero. We were told our only option’s now were for him to have the biopsy and if they found sperm then we could try IVF with ICSI (they inject a single sperm into each harvested egg) or we could use donor sperm. If they found no sperm with the biopsy then without donor sperm neither of us would have a biological child.

We decided that we would try the biopsy and have donor sperm as a backup just in case they didn’t find any.

(Because of other medical issues we had to delay ttc for about a year and this is where the story continues.)

After discussing all our options again, we decided to move ahead and talk to the UR about the biopsy. But we both mentioned that we didn’t really click with the UR he’d seen and that maybe we could find someone else that we liked better. I searched the internet and found Dr Larry Lipshultz . Joe was lucky to get an appointment pretty quickly. After discussing what the first UR had told us and what tests he had preformed, Dr Lipshultz wanted his own SA just in case things had changed in the last year and to insure that his lab couldn’t find a few strays that the other lab had missed. No such luck. I was pretty skeptical when the Dr. suggested that he still thought that the testosterone might be the culprit, but Joe was willing to try almost anything to keep that needle away from his boys. At least he didn’t want to play wait and see for three months again while Joe testosterone plummeted, he suggested a combination of a pill (Nolvadex) that would tell Joe’s body to produce testosterone and a shot (Novarel) that would tell it to produce sperm. One month later Joe was back in the office leaving a deposit, that night they called us with the results. Joe had 9 sperm. I think the guy who called couldn’t figure out why we were so happy. It was enough to try IVF without the biopsy; but even better it meant we had a chance of having our child.
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My DH has azoospermia due to Klinefelter Syndrome (47XXY). Perhaps have a karotype done to check into that as a possibility.
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Old 05-25-2006, 11:01 AM   #5 (permalink)
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P. Williams, our stories sound so similar. My DH was told by an ex that she was pg 2x's. We married when he was 27, so we felt nothing that it would be a matter of months.

Went to UR and it was said his testosterone was low, so they put him on the shot. I asked at the time would it effect his fertility, and he said plain as day that if anything it would help it. Boy I feel like smacking him now. He was diagnosed w/azoospermia and given over to a surgeon.

The biopsy was done (poor guy) and they found no blockage, but sperm was being produced. We were then handed over to a Infertility specialist at University of Michigan. We went through 2 years of treatment (from clomid to HCG) and there was still nothing. He suggest drastic weight loss.

2 years and 150 pounds later, we have a count of 50,000!!!!!! Now that we have a count, unfortunately our neither of our insurances cover IVF, only IUI/ICI/IVI and 50% of meds.

So now we are looking for a supplement that will help boost his swimmers so that we can try the options available to us. Any suggestions?
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Old 05-25-2006, 05:29 PM   #6 (permalink)
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our story also

My husband has azoospermia also - he has klinefelter syndrome also. We are currently in the process of doing ivf with sperm retrevial. We were also told to have a back up donor. My dh actually is for this! sometimes, we feel like we are in this all alone. It as helped to hear other stories. I wish you all the best to luck and hope that things turn out the way you want.
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Old 05-31-2006, 06:02 PM   #7 (permalink)
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can anyone help?

hi everyone, i am new to this so any help would be appreciated. we recently got married and so looking forward to kids. i suggested to my obgyn to get my husband tested after several months of trying i felt something was wrong and after many tests, a biopsy, chromid, diet changes, vitamins, therapy,healing masses and tears eventually got chromosome test and was told its a no go. very rare condition - vital part of chromosome missing. we are totally devastated. we had gone to top dr who researches male infertility. we are going to go for donor sperm but i am worried that dh might not accept child as he was so desperate for his own. has anyone gone through this.
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Old 06-19-2006, 09:37 PM   #8 (permalink)
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hi. My husband and I have a 10 year old. after 4 +yearsTTC we found Zero sperm. We were told this could be from an injury to the testicles. A virus (no Kidding) asked if he had been sick for 3 weeks or more.( husband had been to many parts of the world and even exposed to what they thought was anthrax, took meds for 3 weeks for that.) or antisprem antibodies which kill the sperm. A varicoclie (like a varicous vein in the tecticle) can raise the temperature so high as to kill the sperm. No one could give us an answer and were only willing to speculate.??????
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