S.A. results...Please give me hope!

sendai · 05-14-2005, 06:16 PM

Hi. My husband and I just started getting help with our if after trying for 2 years. We just got the results of his S.A back and they are not good. First my dr. thought I was a different patient who was getting her second S.A. results back and just blurted out the results like I knew it. I was devastated.

Apparently his count is under 20 mil., half don't move and most are abnormal. I haven't done a lot of research on this and have no idea what my chances are or what this means.

I have issues of my own but was getting ready to start my clomid and had a lot of hope for us. My dr mentioned IVF as as option but ofcourse our insurance doesn't cover it. It does cover AI tho.

Can anyone help me? I don't know if I should just give up or if there is still a chance with what is available to us now? Heck, I don't really even know what the results mean. If anyone has any advice or was in a similar situation I would love to hear it.

Thanks!
Barb

Little fluff · 05-15-2005, 04:41 AM

Hi Barb

My DH has a below average sperm count and some motility problems - sorry can't remember exact numbers.

Our naturopath has put him on a multi vitamin - 1 per day, Maca tablets - 2 per day, Enhanced Biovailability Coenzyme Q10 capsules - three times daily and zinc tablets 1 per day.

Lee (DH) is also on a herbal drink blend - sorry don't know herb mix but in the last 3 months I have conceived twice - neither has implanted but his sperm has been strong enough for conception (I don't ovulate and am also on herbal blend and vitamins).

I would really strongly suggest you visit a health food store, most have naturopaths working in them and I am sure that they will be able to help you and your DH.

All the very best.

Debbie

sendai · 05-15-2005, 11:41 PM

Thanks for the help and congrats on your progress! I will have to check that out. We have several in our area.

Barb

Little fluff · 05-16-2005, 04:37 AM

Good luck Barb and try to stay positive.

Debbie

sendai · 05-19-2005, 05:45 AM

Thanks. I am much more positive then I was the first day. I just wasn't expecting to have the male factor issue. Thanks again for the advice about the vitamins and herbs! My husband was very open to the idea. Much more open than going to the urologist but he's willing to do that too. We are going to do the second SA with a longer abstinance period. We'll see what happens.

Barb

Little fluff · 05-19-2005, 06:11 AM

Barb

I was reading my IF journal last night and noticed that when we did AI number 3 DH had a lower than average sperm count - the reason for this was that he had been on antibiotics. I guess that different things, stresses, illness, medication etc can all effect sperm. Hopefully it was just something like this for your DH but even if it wasn't all is not lost as I mentioned in my earlier post.

Good luck Barb and I am pleased that you are not as stressed about it now.

Best wishes
Debbie

Jess71 · 05-19-2005, 09:34 AM

Barb, hi, Jess here. I went through the same thing as you over christmas - still trying to deal with it. We had been trying 2 yrs and I ABSOLUTLEY KNEW it was going to be female factor because my cycles are so irregular - the Dr insisted on doing SA first before he even looked at me, and I thought it was just going to be a formality. I was completely blown away when DH SA came back with 12 million. I already knew that 50million per millilitre is average, and that anything above 20 is considered a fair chance, so I just couldnt beleive it was so low!! We waited two months and repeated the SA, this time it came back at 8 Mill, even worse.
Since then I have read everything I could to try and figure out what our chances are of natural conception - Ive read some articles that say the female can compensate for poor male fertility if she is extra fertile, ie releases more eggs. Problem is I know I am below average myself on that count, hence Im on Clomid (and going a bit ballistic at the moment).
Its frustrating because noone ever says there is a cutoff, they all say - well you know, its not guaranteed that any particular count guarentees infertility or otherwise... but I want to know the odds!!! I want someone to say YES or NO, and then get on with it.
The reality is, noone knows. We just have to decide how long to have faith for and keep trying.

Im really sorry you are dealing with this news right now. When you have taken it on board though, you will start to look at the options and figure out whats next for you.
Hey, when I told my Doctor friend, she said 8 mill, you're lucky! My DH has zero!! And then I realised that it is not the end of the world, we do have good options to turn to.

Lauren2005 · 05-20-2005, 04:20 PM

Barb,

You're lucky that your insurance covers IUI... With sperm washing, you have good odds! I'm sorry to hear that your doctor made such an insensitivity mistake. Best wishes and baby dust to you.

Lauren

sendai · 05-20-2005, 04:32 PM

Thanks for the encouragement! We're keeping our fingers crossed that the second test is better but if not then we're realizing we have options. Thanks again!

Barb

ambergal · 05-30-2005, 05:59 PM

My husbands first sample didn't go so well. Everything from number to pH was too low (I too thought I was the problem PCOS, trying for over 3 years). They sent him for a second sample with a two week absenance. His numbers were over the top. I'm talking over 500 million (needless to say my doc and I had a good laugh). My husband said it was very stressful for him the first sample (uncomfortable, embar., nervous, etc).

Anyway, have hope. I'm waiting to hear back from my doc. Next step is surgury to try to clear up the fibroids, cysts and endo and to take a general "look around". Then clomid. My husband and I have discussed it and have decided that is as far as we a willing to go (our insurance covers nothing else). Good luck to you!

05-14-2005, 06:16 PM	#1 (permalink)
sendai Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 213	S.A. results...Please give me hope! Hi. My husband and I just started getting help with our if after trying for 2 years. We just got the results of his S.A back and they are not good. First my dr. thought I was a different patient who was getting her second S.A. results back and just blurted out the results like I knew it. I was devastated. Apparently his count is under 20 mil., half don't move and most are abnormal. I haven't done a lot of research on this and have no idea what my chances are or what this means. I have issues of my own but was getting ready to start my clomid and had a lot of hope for us. My dr mentioned IVF as as option but ofcourse our insurance doesn't cover it. It does cover AI tho. Can anyone help me? I don't know if I should just give up or if there is still a chance with what is available to us now? Heck, I don't really even know what the results mean. If anyone has any advice or was in a similar situation I would love to hear it. Thanks! Barb

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05-15-2005, 04:41 AM	#2 (permalink)
Little fluff 1000-4999 post queen of hearts Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Albury NSW - Australia Posts: 1,908	Hi Barb My DH has a below average sperm count and some motility problems - sorry can't remember exact numbers. Our naturopath has put him on a multi vitamin - 1 per day, Maca tablets - 2 per day, Enhanced Biovailability Coenzyme Q10 capsules - three times daily and zinc tablets 1 per day. Lee (DH) is also on a herbal drink blend - sorry don't know herb mix but in the last 3 months I have conceived twice - neither has implanted but his sperm has been strong enough for conception (I don't ovulate and am also on herbal blend and vitamins). I would really strongly suggest you visit a health food store, most have naturopaths working in them and I am sure that they will be able to help you and your DH. All the very best. Debbie

05-15-2005, 11:41 PM	#3 (permalink)
sendai Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 213	Thanks for the help and congrats on your progress! I will have to check that out. We have several in our area. Barb

05-16-2005, 04:37 AM	#4 (permalink)
Little fluff 1000-4999 post queen of hearts Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Albury NSW - Australia Posts: 1,908	Good luck Barb and try to stay positive. Debbie

05-19-2005, 05:45 AM	#5 (permalink)
sendai Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 213	Thanks. I am much more positive then I was the first day. I just wasn't expecting to have the male factor issue. Thanks again for the advice about the vitamins and herbs! My husband was very open to the idea. Much more open than going to the urologist but he's willing to do that too. We are going to do the second SA with a longer abstinance period. We'll see what happens. Barb

05-19-2005, 06:11 AM	#6 (permalink)
Little fluff 1000-4999 post queen of hearts Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Albury NSW - Australia Posts: 1,908	Barb I was reading my IF journal last night and noticed that when we did AI number 3 DH had a lower than average sperm count - the reason for this was that he had been on antibiotics. I guess that different things, stresses, illness, medication etc can all effect sperm. Hopefully it was just something like this for your DH but even if it wasn't all is not lost as I mentioned in my earlier post. Good luck Barb and I am pleased that you are not as stressed about it now. Best wishes Debbie

05-19-2005, 09:34 AM	#7 (permalink)
Jess71 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Western Australia Posts: 91	Barb, hi, Jess here. I went through the same thing as you over christmas - still trying to deal with it. We had been trying 2 yrs and I ABSOLUTLEY KNEW it was going to be female factor because my cycles are so irregular - the Dr insisted on doing SA first before he even looked at me, and I thought it was just going to be a formality. I was completely blown away when DH SA came back with 12 million. I already knew that 50million per millilitre is average, and that anything above 20 is considered a fair chance, so I just couldnt beleive it was so low!! We waited two months and repeated the SA, this time it came back at 8 Mill, even worse. Since then I have read everything I could to try and figure out what our chances are of natural conception - Ive read some articles that say the female can compensate for poor male fertility if she is extra fertile, ie releases more eggs. Problem is I know I am below average myself on that count, hence Im on Clomid (and going a bit ballistic at the moment). Its frustrating because noone ever says there is a cutoff, they all say - well you know, its not guaranteed that any particular count guarentees infertility or otherwise... but I want to know the odds!!! I want someone to say YES or NO, and then get on with it. The reality is, noone knows. We just have to decide how long to have faith for and keep trying. Im really sorry you are dealing with this news right now. When you have taken it on board though, you will start to look at the options and figure out whats next for you. Hey, when I told my Doctor friend, she said 8 mill, you're lucky! My DH has zero!! And then I realised that it is not the end of the world, we do have good options to turn to.

05-20-2005, 04:20 PM	#8 (permalink)
Lauren2005 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: California Posts: 2,306	Barb, You're lucky that your insurance covers IUI... With sperm washing, you have good odds! I'm sorry to hear that your doctor made such an insensitivity mistake. Best wishes and baby dust to you. Lauren

05-20-2005, 04:32 PM	#9 (permalink)
sendai Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 213	Thanks for the encouragement! We're keeping our fingers crossed that the second test is better but if not then we're realizing we have options. Thanks again! Barb

05-30-2005, 05:59 PM	#10 (permalink)
ambergal Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Pisgah Forest, NC Posts: 46	My husbands first sample didn't go so well. Everything from number to pH was too low (I too thought I was the problem PCOS, trying for over 3 years). They sent him for a second sample with a two week absenance. His numbers were over the top. I'm talking over 500 million (needless to say my doc and I had a good laugh). My husband said it was very stressful for him the first sample (uncomfortable, embar., nervous, etc). Anyway, have hope. I'm waiting to hear back from my doc. Next step is surgury to try to clear up the fibroids, cysts and endo and to take a general "look around". Then clomid. My husband and I have discussed it and have decided that is as far as we a willing to go (our insurance covers nothing else). Good luck to you!