high cytokines?

babee · 09-19-2009, 04:28 AM

I've had multiple IVF failures and slowly my cytokines and my NKa cells have risen. Is the cause of this rising due to the multiple IVF failures? Do IVF meds cause your immune system to over react?

I have read that prednisone can help with high cytokines. In a natural cycle, when should you start taking the prednisone?

marika · 09-21-2009, 04:48 PM

Hello babee! Did you try IVIg (intravenous immunoglobulin) treatment? I have 3 IFV failures and going to talk about this treatment with my RE. Its my only hope.

sdeut · 09-22-2009, 07:10 PM

Have you thought about trying fish oil? Have you looked at Dr. B*eers book is your body baby friendly? I am seeing a reproductive immunologist who is working to get my levels under control. Prednisone does help to lower cytokines and nk cells though sometimes not enough. I started taking them 2 weeks before my cycle and they did reduce my cytokines to normal levels and some of my nks (but not all) to normal levels.

marika · 09-22-2009, 07:23 PM

Hello SDEUT! What Fish Oil does to your body? How did you find out that you have high citokines and NK's?

sdeut · 09-23-2009, 04:41 AM

I met with an Reproductive immunologist (Dr. Kw*ak-Kim) and she did those tests for me. She is in Illinois but you can mail your blood to her.

Also if you are in Cal. check out the Beers center.

There is a sticky at the top of the page that talks about all the benefits of fish oil - but it is suppose to reduce nks.

chelsharmony · 10-26-2009, 12:56 PM

I have read that prednisone can help with high cytokines. In a natural cycle, when should you start taking the prednisone?[/QUOTE]

I actually started taking prednasone last cycle for a femara cycle and at that time my nkc were at a high of 27, then AFTER a month of prednasone daily they went UP to a whopping 41!! Yikes, only me - only me..... everyone else they go down wiht treatment, me, they go up! **sigh**

Does anyone know if the stims or drugs can make the nkc go up?

09-19-2009, 04:28 AM	#1 (permalink)
babee 0-99 post 2 of hearts Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 7	high cytokines? I've had multiple IVF failures and slowly my cytokines and my NKa cells have risen. Is the cause of this rising due to the multiple IVF failures? Do IVF meds cause your immune system to over react? I have read that prednisone can help with high cytokines. In a natural cycle, when should you start taking the prednisone?

09-22-2009, 07:10 PM	#3 (permalink)
sdeut 1000-4999 post queen of hearts Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: illinois Posts: 2,629	Have you thought about trying fish oil? Have you looked at Dr. B*eers book is your body baby friendly? I am seeing a reproductive immunologist who is working to get my levels under control. Prednisone does help to lower cytokines and nk cells though sometimes not enough. I started taking them 2 weeks before my cycle and they did reduce my cytokines to normal levels and some of my nks (but not all) to normal levels. __________________ Me 33 DH 33 Highest FSH 17 2 chemical pg Zachary B 4/22/08 D 6/24/08 (due to SMA) IVF #1 w/PGD - ectopic IVF #2 - m/c 9 weeks

09-22-2009, 07:23 PM	#4 (permalink)
marika 0-99 post 2 of hearts Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Temecula,CA Posts: 5	Hello SDEUT! What Fish Oil does to your body? How did you find out that you have high citokines and NK's? Last edited by marika; 09-22-2009 at 07:31 PM.

09-23-2009, 04:41 AM	#5 (permalink)
sdeut 1000-4999 post queen of hearts Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: illinois Posts: 2,629	I met with an Reproductive immunologist (Dr. Kw*ak-Kim) and she did those tests for me. She is in Illinois but you can mail your blood to her. Also if you are in Cal. check out the Beers center. There is a sticky at the top of the page that talks about all the benefits of fish oil - but it is suppose to reduce nks. __________________ Me 33 DH 33 Highest FSH 17 2 chemical pg Zachary B 4/22/08 D 6/24/08 (due to SMA) IVF #1 w/PGD - ectopic IVF #2 - m/c 9 weeks

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09-21-2009, 04:48 PM	#2 (permalink)
marika 0-99 post 2 of hearts Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Temecula,CA Posts: 5	Hello babee! Did you try IVIg (intravenous immunoglobulin) treatment? I have 3 IFV failures and going to talk about this treatment with my RE. Its my only hope.

10-26-2009, 12:56 PM	#6 (permalink)
chelsharmony 0-99 post 2 of hearts Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 12	I have read that prednisone can help with high cytokines. In a natural cycle, when should you start taking the prednisone?[/QUOTE] I actually started taking prednasone last cycle for a femara cycle and at that time my nkc were at a high of 27, then AFTER a month of prednasone daily they went UP to a whopping 41!! Yikes, only me - only me..... everyone else they go down wiht treatment, me, they go up! sigh Does anyone know if the stims or drugs can make the nkc go up?