SPOILER for end of book - theory

Pat in St Louis · 08-02-2005, 02:16 PM

SPOILER don't read if you haven't finished book 6

I haven't read all the posts here, but do we have a consensus about whether Dumbledore is really gone or not?

I kept thinking that he had previously arranged for Snape to help him fake his death, and that that is why he kept telling Harry he needed Snape only.

This possibility, plus the argument between Dumbledore & Snape leads me to think Snape might be working for the good guys.

Anyone?

Pat

Joey · 08-02-2005, 05:48 PM

I'm iffy on whether Dumbledore is alive or not. It was sort of implied that Sirius Black was "just on the other side", alive but he never showed up in this book. I think she's doing the same little trick with Dumbledore and he's dead.

I do think that Snape is good. He saved Harry's life too many times in past books to suddenly turn in my opinion.

BamaGal · 08-02-2005, 09:11 PM

I think Dumbledore is probably dead, but I don't think he's completely gone from the story. I think he will have arranged for some way to still help Harry after his death. I do buy into the theory that D had an agreement w/Snape for him to kill D so Draco wouldn't have to, or something like that. So, following that theory, D knew his death was coming, and could have figured some way to still help Harry from beyond the grave. I hope, anyway.

suzq515 · 08-03-2005, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BamaGal

I do buy into the theory that D had an agreement w/Snape for him to kill D so Draco wouldn't have to, or something like that. So, following that theory, D knew his death was coming, and could have figured some way to still help Harry from beyond the grave. I hope, anyway.

I agree. I think Harry will be getting advice from Dumbledore through a portrait or something. I never trusted Snape. He needs to keep Harry alive for Voldemort, that's why he keeps saving him.

Sue

Phud · 08-03-2005, 09:07 PM

I'm on my second reading and listening to the audio book with my DS, and I do think that Dumbledore is dead. I hadn't figured he would die in this book tho, but I did feel he would have to die in order to open up the door for Harry to take on Voldemort. While my first instinct was to say Snape is good, I'm finding a pattern in this book that Harry's instincts are getting better...and he is amazingly right about a LOT of things that other people (namely Hermione) blew him off about, like Malfoy. I'm wondering if JKR isn't playing us. So I'm up in the air about Snape.

AngelaM · 08-05-2005, 09:06 AM

I do think Dumbledore is dead.

I also think that Snape is still on the "good" side.

E'sMommy · 08-09-2005, 05:29 AM

I think he is dead but the whole portrait thing is what has me intrigued. Just how much is current thoughts from the other side and how much is memory. I am wishy washy about Snape. Just depends on the mood I am in when you ask.

AngelaM · 08-18-2005, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Pat in St Louis

plus the argument between Dumbledore & Snape leads me to think Snape might be working for the good guys.

I do think Snape is still on the "good" side.

How else did Dumbledore know early on that Malfoy was trying to kill him?

Doreen · 09-03-2005, 09:30 AM

In the end, it didn't seem like Snape was angry with Harry until Harry called him a coward.

Anyone else pick up on that whole thing?

Sconi · 09-20-2005, 01:43 PM

I thought that was odd that Snape gave Harry advice. Waiting for the last book is going to drive me nuts!

08-02-2005, 02:16 PM	#1 (permalink)
Pat in St Louis 1000-4999 post queen of hearts Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Missouri Posts: 4,965	SPOILER for end of book - theory SPOILER don't read if you haven't finished book 6 I haven't read all the posts here, but do we have a consensus about whether Dumbledore is really gone or not? I kept thinking that he had previously arranged for Snape to help him fake his death, and that that is why he kept telling Harry he needed Snape only. This possibility, plus the argument between Dumbledore & Snape leads me to think Snape might be working for the good guys. Anyone? Pat

08-02-2005, 05:48 PM	#2 (permalink)
Joey 10000-15000 post ace of hearts Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Right Next to Ogopogo Posts: 13,983	I'm iffy on whether Dumbledore is alive or not. It was sort of implied that Sirius Black was "just on the other side", alive but he never showed up in this book. I think she's doing the same little trick with Dumbledore and he's dead. I do think that Snape is good. He saved Harry's life too many times in past books to suddenly turn in my opinion. __________________ Joey Connor - 33 wkr - now 14 yrs old - Feb 1995 Callie - stillborn at 34 wks, Jan 19, 1999 Caden - 33 wkr - now 8 yrs old -Jun 2001

08-02-2005, 09:11 PM	#3 (permalink)
BamaGal 1000-4999 post queen of hearts Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,556	I think Dumbledore is probably dead, but I don't think he's completely gone from the story. I think he will have arranged for some way to still help Harry after his death. I do buy into the theory that D had an agreement w/Snape for him to kill D so Draco wouldn't have to, or something like that. So, following that theory, D knew his death was coming, and could have figured some way to still help Harry from beyond the grave. I hope, anyway. __________________ God bless, Jamie H 15 S 12 J 8

08-03-2005, 09:07 PM	#5 (permalink)
Phud 10000-15000 post ace of hearts Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Kuwait City, Kuwait...Middle East...Earth... Posts: 12,196 Blog Entries: 132	I'm on my second reading and listening to the audio book with my DS, and I do think that Dumbledore is dead. I hadn't figured he would die in this book tho, but I did feel he would have to die in order to open up the door for Harry to take on Voldemort. While my first instinct was to say Snape is good, I'm finding a pattern in this book that Harry's instincts are getting better...and he is amazingly right about a LOT of things that other people (namely Hermione) blew him off about, like Malfoy. I'm wondering if JKR isn't playing us. So I'm up in the air about Snape. __________________ Christine, mommy to Connor (11), Erinn (7), and Jack & Paul (8 y/o angels, born 3/15/01, died 3/19/01) I don't need you to remind me of my age. I have a bladder to do that for me. ~Stephen Fry

08-09-2005, 05:29 AM	#7 (permalink)
E'sMommy 5000-9999 post king of hearts Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,797	I think he is dead but the whole portrait thing is what has me intrigued. Just how much is current thoughts from the other side and how much is memory. I am wishy washy about Snape. Just depends on the mood I am in when you ask. __________________ E's Mommy Mom to Ethen6/2/02 m/c 10/04, 10/08, 12/08, 3/09 ttc#2

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08-05-2005, 09:06 AM	#6 (permalink)
AngelaM Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: "Right" in the "middle" of Georgia Posts: 7,952 Blog Entries: 1	I do think Dumbledore is dead. I also think that Snape is still on the "good" side.

09-03-2005, 09:30 AM	#9 (permalink)
Doreen 5000-9999 post king of hearts Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Northeast US Posts: 7,137 Blog Entries: 95	In the end, it didn't seem like Snape was angry with Harry until Harry called him a coward. Anyone else pick up on that whole thing? __________________ http://doreenat.blogspot.com/ C & D b.1/23/02 IVF/ICSI, 1st attempt D. dx'ed w/autism Dec 2002..."not being able to speak is not the same thing as not having anything to say" J b.3/4/01 gotcha 2/23/07, Stavropol Krai K b.7/12/84, d.11/7/04 an angel soaring high, with no boundaries Suicide is the result of a fatal mental illness "...letting go of a child is impossible"

09-20-2005, 01:43 PM	#10 (permalink)
Sconi 1000-4999 post queen of hearts Join Date: May 2005 Location: NJ Posts: 2,619	I thought that was odd that Snape gave Harry advice. Waiting for the last book is going to drive me nuts!

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