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Old 07-18-2005, 11:29 AM   #11 (permalink)
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OK my book just hit the wall, UHG, another paint job for me. I have to go by some more kleenex now!!!!

I didn't chuck the book this time as i did with sirius' death mainly because i was shocked too much. I knew dumbledore would die eventually but not then at that time with those people and Snape of all people doing it.....
I just re-read avada kadevra(sp?) a million times and started bawling.....

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Old 07-18-2005, 01:00 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Do you remember that Harry found a locket at Sirius' house when they were cleaning? A locket no one could open..? It very well could be that Regulus Black got the horcrux...

I read an interesting post on the forums at the leaky cauldron website last night. While it was the longest post I have ever seen, the poster made some good points. He (I guess) was explaining why he thinks Dumbledore died, why he trusted Snape really, and why Snape really is on the side of the good guys. The main point that struck me was why D really trusted Snape, as JKR's explanation was very weak, IMO, to say the least. In this poster's opinion, Snape, who was very close to V and very high up in his ranks, came to D and told him the secret to V's immortality and the only way to defeat him, by destroying the horcruxes. Such info would obviously do more to make D trust him. He also thinks that D knew about the unbreakable vow Snape had made, and that D actually wanted Snape to kill him rather than Snape dying for breaking his vow, for two reasons. One to protect Draco, and two, so Snape could help Harry in finding and destroying the horcruxes.

As I said, it was very interesting, and very, very long. It was more like an essay, but I thought he made some valid points.

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Old 07-18-2005, 01:12 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Wow, I have too much to think about, but agree with you, Brina, there has to still be a Black floating around in this.

With the amount of Horcruxes (sp?) Horcrucxi? left, seems like there's more then one book left in this story, and now that they may not be set at Hogwarts, won't have to run cocurrent with Harry's school career.
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Old 07-18-2005, 01:15 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Oh, and wanted to add...if Snape were truly 150% inside & out evil, wouldn't he have tried something a bit more cruel and painful on Dumbledore then an immediate death curse?
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I have just finished reading HBP and words cannot express the sadness and horror I felt at Dumbledore's death! I need a minute to exhale and then I will come back w/ questions and thoughts.
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I also think Brina is right about R.A.B. That would make a lot of sense.

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He also thinks that D knew about the unbreakable vow Snape had made, and that D actually wanted Snape to kill him rather than Snape dying for breaking his vow
I had thought this as well because of the argument that was overheard between Snape and Dumbledore.
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Oh, and as for the letter with the false horcrux, I think it is Sirius' brother Regilus (sorry if the spelling is off, I don't have my books on vacation with me to look up the proper spelling). The initials fit. Regilus got far inside the deatheaters before realizing that he didn't want to be there, and then was killed very shortly after trying to walk away. Maybe he didn't just try to walk away, maybe he decided to take a piece of voldy with him.
I agree I think R.A.B. Is Regulus Black, I also wonder if at least of of the Horcrux are hidding in 12 Grimmauld place in the stuff Kreator kept trying to take and hide. It would make it interesting that Harry is now the owner.
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a couple of things.

I know I said I now believe Snape is evil, but there is one thing that still has me thinking, maybe not. did dumbledore implore snape to save him...or to kill him? things he has said in the past (in book one to be exact), tell us that he does not fear death. perhaps, he knew that he had to die to save harry, and saving harry is the important thing. perhaps, his pleading to snape was to do what he was asking and kill him.

could one of the horcrux's be godrick griffyndor's sword? they talked about helga hufflepuff's cup and of course the things that belonged to slytherin- and something of ravenclaw's and something of griffyndor's. maybe voldy wants to get into howarts so badly because one of the horcruxes is there - griffyndor's sword. it is the only griffyndor relic we have ever heard of.

there is something we are going to learn about lily - something big. over and over in this book we get pounded with the fact that she was very good at potions. over and over in all the books we have been told harry has her eyes. in the first book, at olivanders, we learn that james's wand was very good for transfiguration - which turned out to be important to the story, and that lily's wand was good for charms. so, good at potions and charms and had green eyes like her son. not sure what it will add up to, but seems important.
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could one of the horcrux's be godrick griffyndor's sword? they talked about helga hufflepuff's cup and of course the things that belonged to slytherin- and something of ravenclaw's and something of griffyndor's. maybe voldy wants to get into howarts so badly because one of the horcruxes is there - griffyndor's sword. it is the only griffyndor relic we have ever heard of.

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I thought this also, by the way Dumbledor went on to Voldy about you want something here, but it is not to teach!
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Hmmm... I had never really thought about it being Regulus Black. That's interesting, but I doubt that he is still alive. The house elf, Kreacher, now (unwillingly) obeys Harry. If Regulus were still alive, wouldn't Kreacher belong to him - the last of the remaining male Blacks?

I cannot imagine Book 7 not being set in Hogwarts though.
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