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    mbaby
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    Embryo quality and chances of success help please

    Hi ladies,
    I had my 2nd failed IVF cycle in the middle of June, and have 3 frozen 6-day blasts of the following grade:
    2BB
    2BB
    1CC

    and these all took 6 days to reach this point, not 5.

    At the time that the embryologist froze these, she told me that they are medium quality (and now that I've done more reading on grading of embryos, they totally are not good quality)

    This was supposed to be our last and final cycle. But I'm having some doubts about what if I do the FET cycle, and then none make it to thaw? And since they are only mediocre embryos, would it be better to do another fresh cycle instead (with another RE)? I love my RE, the ONLY thing that makes me doubt his whole process is that he didn't do the ET under ultrasound. When I asked about it, he said that his method of using a catheter to transfer doesn't require ultrasound guidance. But his success rates are just as good as this second doctor I'm considering.

    The only reason I'm considering doing a fresh cycle is because of this no-ultrasound ET, and because I realized that the time frame for the FET and medications cycle isn't that different from a fresh one.

    So my questions to you ladies is have you heard of successes with 2BB 6-day blasts? And what are the typical thaw rates for frozens? Is it 50%? more? less?

    I'm in my 'rest' cycle right now, and have my wtf talk with my RE next week, and a consult with the new RE the following day. Trying to decide what to do before then and am so confused. Doubts everywhere.

    help?
    Me: 33 DH: 35
    TTC since 2009
    Diagnosed with: MFI & PCO
    IVF #1 - Feb 2012 - 2 embryos, 2d ET - BFN
    IVF #2 - May 2012 - 2 embryos, 3d ET - BFN
    - 3 day-6 blasts frozen
    FET - 9/20 transferred 2, 6-day blasts both grade 2BB


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    I honestlt think it is a good idea to see a new RE. There are numerous studies showing ultrasound guided transfer does make a difference. I'm on my phone right now, so can't really link to any, but you can search Google and find them easily enough. As far as the frozen embryos that you have, there is really no way to know. I've seen 6AA blasts not be successful. Good luck and I hope your next cycle brings you success.
    Tammy: 41 - Adhesions, DOR
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    I think that BB blasts are pretty decent quality. Thaw rates at my clinic for anything better than CC are as high as 90 or 95%. I have personally had three embryos thawed. One BC and two CC. All three made it. The BC ended in a chemical pregnancy. The 2 CCs were just transfered yesterday.

    Good luck to you.
    Me-37 DH-35 (endo, MF, IC)
    TTC 6 years
    IVF #1: July 2010 BFP! Jude born 12/3/2010 at 21 weeks.
    FET #1: May 2011 chemical
    IVF #2: July 2011 chemical
    FET #2: July 2012 BFP id girls Mary and Rose born 12/30/2012 at 27 wks.


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    I also would talk to another RE and get a second opinion. To give you some perspective, with my last FET I also transferred 3 blasts (frozen from IVF#1). They were Grade II BB, Grade III CB and Grade II CC. My RE thought we had a decent shot with them, but I knew going into the trasnfer (after our meeting with the RE where we went over quality) that it wasn't going to work. In fact I sobbed the entire time knowing that it wouldn't work, but still hoped for the best. We got a BFN. Our next two embies are much better quality (from IVF#2). At freezing they were Grade I and Grade II. I don't know the letter grades for them yet, but RE said they were excellent quality at freezing. I am more hopeful about the next FET.

    I have read extensively that poor graded embryos can still make perfect babies, but the fact of the matter is that they do have a lower chance of implantation.
    Me (36) DH (36)
    IVF #1: Feb 2011 BFN (transferred 2 blasts, 3 frozen)
    IVF #2: Jan 2012 BFP (transferred 2 blasts, 2 frozen)
    m/c at 8 wks (D&C on 3/9/12)
    Natural FET #1: July 1, 2012 - BFN
    Natural FET #2: End of July 2012... our last two embryos


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    Jad : Congratulations and Good luck to you!! Yolanta: I have been following along and am sorry about your bfp, but glad to hear that you are so positive about your super duper frosties!!! Go for it!!!


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    Just wanted to update to say that I am pregnant with one of my CC blasts. It's very early stages, but I got two good betas this week.

    The two embryos that were transfered didn't meet the freezing criteria of my clinic, but we insisted anyway. Instead of using these blasts one year ago, we went through a fresh cycle that ended up in a chemical pregnancy. I am rooting so much for these little underdogs.
    Me-37 DH-35 (endo, MF, IC)
    TTC 6 years
    IVF #1: July 2010 BFP! Jude born 12/3/2010 at 21 weeks.
    FET #1: May 2011 chemical
    IVF #2: July 2011 chemical
    FET #2: July 2012 BFP id girls Mary and Rose born 12/30/2012 at 27 wks.


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    Jad I really love hearing about the not-so-great embryo-success stories! There's a thread around here somewhere called exactly that. Good betas are good news!


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    Jad!

    You have NO idea how happy I am for you!!! xx

    I hope everything continues and that you're able to bring Jude's little brother or sister home. *hugs*


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    Congratulations Jad!
    Me (36) DH (36)
    IVF #1: Feb 2011 BFN (transferred 2 blasts, 3 frozen)
    IVF #2: Jan 2012 BFP (transferred 2 blasts, 2 frozen)
    m/c at 8 wks (D&C on 3/9/12)
    Natural FET #1: July 1, 2012 - BFN
    Natural FET #2: End of July 2012... our last two embryos


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    CONGRATULATIONS JAD!!! Thanks so much for posting, I'm so sorry for the delayed response. I just kept away from the boards for awhile because I was trying to accept we were going to probably be childless. But my FET is coming up next month, am starting my Vivelle patches tonight, so your success is giving me some scared hope.

    Very happy for you. Thanks for all the responses ladies!
    Me: 33 DH: 35
    TTC since 2009
    Diagnosed with: MFI & PCO
    IVF #1 - Feb 2012 - 2 embryos, 2d ET - BFN
    IVF #2 - May 2012 - 2 embryos, 3d ET - BFN
    - 3 day-6 blasts frozen
    FET - 9/20 transferred 2, 6-day blasts both grade 2BB


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