Any Hope???? (bfn/bfp mentioned)

[gigimom]

Hi Everyone,

I am a regular lurker on this thread and was wondering if I could trouble someone for some advice or glimmer of hope.

I did my 1st DE-IVF ET on 6/5. We transferred 2- 8 cell, grade 5 embryos. (We have 8- 3 day and 3 blasts on ice also. My first IVF was last year this time with my own eggs but I am a poor responder, 38 y/o with stage 4 endo.
Although, we had great embryos this time, I have been doing everything under the sun for success--acupuncture, wheatgrass, aspirin up until the ET (starting spotting so RE put an end to the aspirin although I think I need it because I think my problem is with implantation). Here is my dilemma, I know that I shouldn't have, but I did an evil HPT on this past Friday which would only have been 8dpt (I did a 3dt) or 11po. It ofcourse was BFN. So, now I have been focusing on my symptoms which have been mild cramps like AF is coming since the day after my ET. Now I just have on and off twinges in my abd and low back pain and severe heartburn for the past 3 days. I am so concerned because I don't have sore bbs or nausea, or spotting. I am taking estrace twice daily and PIO shots once a day. Here is the kicker...my acupuncturist today says that I still don't have a "slippery pulse". So, now I am really giving up on hope for my beta on Tue, 6/17. I have one more FRER in the bathroom and my DH wants me to take it tomorrow morning. I am terrified! Has anyone out there had an early HPT and then gotten a BFP? Also, do you have to have all these symptoms that everyone else seems to have except me?? Can the heartburn be a good sign? Last year I had spotting and my cycle was a bust. And what about this slippery pulse--anyone know more about whether or not this is a good way to determine whether or not I'm pregnant? Any and all input is greatly appreciated

Reading through all of your threads does help me get through my 2ww and the positive stories helps me to hang on. Good luck to everyone trying and continued success to those who have made it through these trying times of IF.

Hi gigimom-

I think you tested too early the first time. Try to relax -- or at least distract yourself -- and hang in there until your beta. I know it's easier said than done.

The symptoms before beta can be a result of progesterone supplementation or of pregnancy. There's really no way to tell! But it sounds to me like there's no reason at all for you to give up hope right now, so try to think positive thoughts about your little embabies! And remember, you've got good frosties, too, jut in case...

Personally, I didn't do the HPT thing; I waited till beta. I figured if it was going to be negative, I didn't want to torture myself by experiencing it over and over by POAS. And if it was going to be positive, it would be worth waiting a few days for the official results.

for your BFP!!

All best,
K

[gigimom]

hoping2bmamaKat~ Congrats on your DE IVF success! Your story gives me some hope. Right now, I really need that because this morning I did exactly what I should not have done--I POAS. Unfortunately, it was BFN DH and I are pretty devastated. I know that my beta is tomorrow but I have already left a message for the nurse at my REs to find out what my next game plan will be. I know for sure, next time I will not put myself and DH through this torture of HPT. Thanks for the advice and support. Continued success and may the remainder of your pregnancy be happy and healthy!

I hope you're pleasantly surprised tomorrow, gigi, but if not, those frozen blasts sound very promising.

[nugget]

Yes, you still have hope for two reasons. First, you can't count out that this cycle didn't work. I know several people that had bfn's up until the morning of their beta. Second, you have some awesome sounding frosties and if this cycle doesn't work then you have an excellent chance with those little guys.
Also, I didn't have any symptoms and I ended up with a bfp. I also didn't poas precisely b/c I didn't want to do what you are doing. So please stay positive and let us know what happens tomorrow!!!!

[Margarete Anne]

Pee sticks are evil, JMHO. Remember, it isn't over until it's over.

As far as no symptoms.....I had absolutely none, except for the heartburn. The nurse practitioner said that is the most reliable constant sign at this early point in pregnancy. I did not pee on a stick, but my beta was 1,240 at 14dp3dt, and I was initially pregnant with triplets......with no symptoms whatsoever, other than the heartburn.

You will be in my thoughts.

[gigimom]

Margarete Anne & nugget,

Thanks for the encouragement I really have been a mess most of this morning but since hearing stories like yours and hoping2bmamaKat's, I really do feel like there is hope, even if it means trying with my frozen embabies.

gigi

[Margarete Anne]

Hang in there......I know this is really hard. No matter what, be thankful for your embies......you did good.

[nugget]

Gigi- what happened with your beta????

[gigimom]

Hi everyone-

Sorry I didn't get back to you yesterday--was pretty bummed. I got a bfn. Thanks to all of you for your support and prayers Just having your support and encouragement has really made this much easier to deal with. I suppose every time I go through a bfn, I get a little stronger, though the pain is the same. When I woke up this morning I remembered I got the bfn and it feels like someone died.

I am grateful that I have online friends like you all and for sunny skies today(I have horrible seasonal affective disorder, so blue skies and warm weather definitely helped yesterday and today!) And...I have 11 embabies on ice so I am going to try to stay positive. I am waiting for a follow up call from my RE which I haven't gotten yet. DH and I are meeting with him on 6/30 for a consult to really discuss what he thinks went wrong and what our next game plan is.

Any stories out there regarding frozen embryo success? Thank you.
Gigi