It should be against the law to give out raisinets on Halloween.....

Pearls · 11-02-2009, 02:49 PM

What is wrong with people?!?!?!? You can't fool me, there is a fruit hidden in that blob of chocolate! Raisinets are almost healthy.....almost borders on giving out apples. Gross. I've managed to convince my kids that the coconut in the Almond Joys is healthy fruit too, so I've made quite the stash (that's maybe sort of gone by now). If I could only convince them that peanuts are healthy, maybe I could have their Snickers too.

Anyhoo, I saw this article. What do you think? Should calorie counts be made more prominent at restaurants and on food packaging? I know I posted on NYC's laws some time ago.....

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Health care bill: Calorie counts for Big Macs, vending machines
Democrats want you to know that your McDonald's Angus Burger meal has about 1,500 calories -- before you buy and burp.

Buried deep in the House health care bill is a provision, likely to raise nanny-state hackles, requiring fast-food chains and vending machine owners to notify customers of calorie counts -- by conspicuously posting nutritional information on menus or machines.

The provision -- Section 2572 -- requires retail food establishments "part of a chain with 20 or more locations" to list calorie counts "on the menu board including a drive-through board," as is currently required in New York City and other localities.

A "vending machine operator shall provide a sign in close proximity to each article of food or the selection button" that includes similar data.

Exemptions include items that will be on the menu for less than 60 days -- and limited test runs of food products.

It merges the language of Sen. Tom Carper's LEAN Act the MEAL Act, sponsored by Rosa DeLauro (D-Conn.) and Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa), earlier this year.

Such labeling can have a significant impact on consumption habits. NYC's Department of Health and Mental Hygiene polled 10,000 customers to assess the impact of the city's menu labeling law, which went into effect in March 2008, and found that burger buyers ate about 106 fewer calories per purchase.

The idea is popular among progressives and public health types who think it could reduce obesity, hypertension and diabetes rates -- particularly among inner-city folks whose diets are disproportionately composed of cheap, tasty, calorie-loaded Big Macs, Whoppers and Chalupas.

But conservatives and libertarians see it as a major encroachment of the nanny state that has no place in a bill that's supposed to address affordability, insurance industry abuses and expanding coverage.

Radley Balko at Reason.com on the MEAL bill: "Supporters of menu labeling laws know that complying with these laws will be expensive and onerous. That's why they've only applied them to chain restaurants—restaurants they say can afford to send dishes off for nutritional testing. That makes the targets of menu labeling laws corporations, a more politically palatable target than the mom and pop diner."

In June, the National Restaurant Association threw its support behind the Harkin-DeLauro compromise.

intheknow · 11-02-2009, 04:30 PM

Heaven forbid that this new liberal nation allow ANYONE to reap the consequences of their own behavior! Certainly you wouldn't advocate that people who buy junk food from a vending machine would know that the food therein might not be a nutritious as fresh carrots and broccoli?

LandJ · 11-02-2009, 04:56 PM

How dumb is that....to require the nutritional info to be posted on the machine? Many of the vending machines change their contents daily. What a PIA for the poor guy loading them.

I agree with ITK. We already know we should avoid candy, McDonalds and 7-11 hot dogs. Honestly, do we really need another law to "inform" us of that? Get on to working on real business please!

LandJ · 11-02-2009, 04:58 PM

Oh yeah...speaking of halloween candy. If the nation's economy is so bad why on earth did my child get NOT ONE piece of crappy cheap candy? I count on the crappy stuff so I won't eat it!! Oh noooooo, I'm telling ya this kid got all Reese's, Snickers, Butterfingers, etc. All the expensive chocolate stuff!

RobinL · 11-02-2009, 05:11 PM

How do you feel about nutritional info on packages in the grocery store? How is this so different? Don't we have a right to know what we're buying? I haven't been to NYC in a long time, so I haven't experienced the new menus yet. Anyone here? What do you think? You can still order fries and ice cream, right? You just have more knowledge about the products you're buying. You still have the right to eat as many big macs as you can. I don't have a problem with it, but I'd rather see carbs than calories.

intheknow · 11-02-2009, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RobinL

How do you feel about nutritional info on packages in the grocery store? How is this so different? Don't we have a right to know what we're buying? I haven't been to NYC in a long time, so I haven't experienced the new menus yet. Anyone here? What do you think? You can still order fries and ice cream, right? You just have more knowledge about the products you're buying. You still have the right to eat as many big macs as you can. I don't have a problem with it, but I'd rather see carbs than calories.

Did you read the original post?

robine · 11-03-2009, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by LandJ

How dumb is that....to require the nutritional info to be posted on the machine? Many of the vending machines change their contents daily. What a PIA for the poor guy loading them.

I agree with ITK. We already know we should avoid candy, McDonalds and 7-11 hot dogs. Honestly, do we really need another law to "inform" us of that? Get on to working on real business please!

Nanny Pelosi has tried to turn this country into infantile cretins..Seems many dem "law makers" are following suit

It makes me sick..kinda like raisinets

Lesley · 11-03-2009, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by LandJ

How dumb is that....to require the nutritional info to be posted on the machine? Many of the vending machines change their contents daily. What a PIA for the poor guy loading them.

Since ITK points out reading the entire article, I thought, "WTH" and read it. So now we can answer your question with this

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Exemptions include items that will be on the menu for less than 60 days -- and limited test runs of food products.

intheknow · 11-03-2009, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Lesley

Since ITK points out reading the entire article, I thought, "WTH" and read it. So now we can answer your question with this

The problem is merely that this government is trying to be all things to everybody. that is not what the US government is designed to do, it is not what we want it to do and it is not what the Constitution has given it the authority to do. This government needs to checked and checked fast. We the people need to put our government and the politicians in their place. They are OUR SERVANTS, not our masters! We need tot ake away their planes and their limos and so forth. These governmental agencies like Food and Drug need to be salmmed and told that they cannot go beyond the bounds that the people give them . . . not them telling the people their bounds.

Lesley · 11-03-2009, 03:44 PM

You know what, you don't like to be nannied or informed. My suggestion is don't read the labels. For those of us that are trying to teach our kids label reading and understanding basic nutrition concepts such as saturated or trans fats, sugar grams etc, I think it serves a purpose to be able to make informed decisions.

Honestly, you are so worried about being nannied, no one is forcing you to read any of it. The very idea that you don't want me to know what manufacturers put into their products is alarming. You have THAT much faith in their integrity? I don't. What about the stuff made in China? how about the lead levels in the paint of toys, what about the foods (including halloween candy and Christmas candy treats) with melanin? You really don't want to know if those things are in your food stuffs? I do.

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They are OUR SERVANTS, not our masters!

And this is a service they offer to every citizens who would like to take advantage of the service.

11-02-2009, 02:49 PM	#1 (permalink)
Pearls 1000-4999 post queen of hearts Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,463	It should be against the law to give out raisinets on Halloween..... What is wrong with people?!?!?!? You can't fool me, there is a fruit hidden in that blob of chocolate! Raisinets are almost healthy.....almost borders on giving out apples. Gross. I've managed to convince my kids that the coconut in the Almond Joys is healthy fruit too, so I've made quite the stash (that's maybe sort of gone by now). If I could only convince them that peanuts are healthy, maybe I could have their Snickers too. Anyhoo, I saw this article. What do you think? Should calorie counts be made more prominent at restaurants and on food packaging? I know I posted on NYC's laws some time ago..... Health care bill: Calorie counts for Big Macs, vending machines - Glenn Thrush - POLITICO.com Navigate: POLITICO Glenn Thrush Health care bill: Calorie counts for Big Macs, vending machines Main Content Health care bill: Calorie counts for Big Macs, vending machines - Glenn Thrush: Health care bill: Calorie counts for Big Macs, vending machinesOctober 30, 2009 Categories:Health Care Health care bill: Calorie counts for Big Macs, vending machines Democrats want you to know that your McDonald's Angus Burger meal has about 1,500 calories -- before you buy and burp. Buried deep in the House health care bill is a provision, likely to raise nanny-state hackles, requiring fast-food chains and vending machine owners to notify customers of calorie counts -- by conspicuously posting nutritional information on menus or machines. The provision -- Section 2572 -- requires retail food establishments "part of a chain with 20 or more locations" to list calorie counts "on the menu board including a drive-through board," as is currently required in New York City and other localities. A "vending machine operator shall provide a sign in close proximity to each article of food or the selection button" that includes similar data. Exemptions include items that will be on the menu for less than 60 days -- and limited test runs of food products. It merges the language of Sen. Tom Carper's LEAN Act the MEAL Act, sponsored by Rosa DeLauro (D-Conn.) and Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa), earlier this year. Such labeling can have a significant impact on consumption habits. NYC's Department of Health and Mental Hygiene polled 10,000 customers to assess the impact of the city's menu labeling law, which went into effect in March 2008, and found that burger buyers ate about 106 fewer calories per purchase. The idea is popular among progressives and public health types who think it could reduce obesity, hypertension and diabetes rates -- particularly among inner-city folks whose diets are disproportionately composed of cheap, tasty, calorie-loaded Big Macs, Whoppers and Chalupas. But conservatives and libertarians see it as a major encroachment of the nanny state that has no place in a bill that's supposed to address affordability, insurance industry abuses and expanding coverage. Radley Balko at Reason.com on the MEAL bill: "Supporters of menu labeling laws know that complying with these laws will be expensive and onerous. That's why they've only applied them to chain restaurants—restaurants they say can afford to send dishes off for nutritional testing. That makes the targets of menu labeling laws corporations, a more politically palatable target than the mom and pop diner." In June, the National Restaurant Association threw its support behind the Harkin-DeLauro compromise.

11-02-2009, 04:30 PM	#2 (permalink)
intheknow 1000-4999 post queen of hearts Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Sooo Conservative. Oh NO! Posts: 3,804 Blog Entries: 303	Heaven forbid that this new liberal nation allow ANYONE to reap the consequences of their own behavior! Certainly you wouldn't advocate that people who buy junk food from a vending machine would know that the food therein might not be a nutritious as fresh carrots and broccoli? __________________ Needed a Hero; Got a Zero. Impeach Obama!

11-02-2009, 04:56 PM	#3 (permalink)
LandJ 10000-15000 post ace of hearts Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 15,982 Blog Entries: 38	How dumb is that....to require the nutritional info to be posted on the machine? Many of the vending machines change their contents daily. What a PIA for the poor guy loading them. I agree with ITK. We already know we should avoid candy, McDonalds and 7-11 hot dogs. Honestly, do we really need another law to "inform" us of that? Get on to working on real business please! __________________ 6 years old

11-02-2009, 04:58 PM	#4 (permalink)
LandJ 10000-15000 post ace of hearts Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 15,982 Blog Entries: 38	Oh yeah...speaking of halloween candy. If the nation's economy is so bad why on earth did my child get NOT ONE piece of crappy cheap candy? I count on the crappy stuff so I won't eat it!! Oh noooooo, I'm telling ya this kid got all Reese's, Snickers, Butterfingers, etc. All the expensive chocolate stuff! __________________ 6 years old

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11-02-2009, 05:11 PM	#5 (permalink)
RobinL 5000-9999 post king of hearts Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Sunny Florida! Posts: 9,257	How do you feel about nutritional info on packages in the grocery store? How is this so different? Don't we have a right to know what we're buying? I haven't been to NYC in a long time, so I haven't experienced the new menus yet. Anyone here? What do you think? You can still order fries and ice cream, right? You just have more knowledge about the products you're buying. You still have the right to eat as many big macs as you can. I don't have a problem with it, but I'd rather see carbs than calories.