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Old 10-28-2009, 03:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Fiscal 2010 bills grow domestic programs by 12.1%

I'm trying to blow raspberries at my computer to make this all go away. It's not helping.

What part of 'recession' does the Congress not understand? This is crazy!
As Deficit Increases, Democrats Plan More Spending - WSJ.com

OCTOBER 26, 2009, 12:10 A.M. ET
The Spending Rolls On
The fiscal 2010 bills grow domestic programs by 12.1%.

The White House disclosed the other day that the fiscal 2009 budget deficit clocked in at $1.4 trillion, amid the usual promises to do something about it. Yet even as budget director Peter Orszag was speaking, House Democrats were moving on a dozen spending bills for fiscal 2010 that total 12.1% in more domestic discretionary increases.

Yes, 12.1%.


Remember, inflation is running close to zero, or 0.8%. The good news, if we can call it that, is that Senate Democrats only want to increase nondefense appropriations by 8% for 2010. Because these funding increases become part of the permanent baseline for future appropriations, the 2010 House budget bills would permanently raise annual outlays for discretionary programs by about $75 billion a year from now until, well, forever.

These spending hikes do not include the so-called mandatory spending programs like Medicare and Medicaid, which exploded by 9.8% and 24.7%, respectively, in the just-ended 2009 fiscal year. All of this largesse is also on top of the stimulus funding that agencies received in 2009. The budget for the Environmental Protection Agency rose 126%, the Department of Education budget 209% and energy programs 146%.

House Republicans on the Budget Committee added up the 2009 appropriations, the stimulus funding and 2010 budgets and found that federal agencies will, on average, receive a 57% increase in appropriated funds from 2008-2010. By contrast, real family incomes fell by 3.6% last year. There's no recession in Washington.

More broadly, the White House and the 111th Congress have already enacted or proposed $3.4 trillion of new spending through 2019 for things like the health-care plan, cap and tax, and the children's health bill passed earlier this year. Very little of this has been financed with offsetting spending cuts elsewhere in the budget.

Throughout the era of Republican rule in Washington, we scored GOP lawmakers for their overspending and earmarks—and so did Nancy Pelosi and other Congressional Democrats. So how do their records compare? From 2001-2008 the average annual increase in appropriations bills came in at 6.4%—or about double the rate of inflation. In this Congress spending is now growing six times faster than inflation.

And here is the kicker. Mr. Obama's 10-year budget forecast predicts that the budget deficit will fall in future years in part because federal spending on discretionary programs will grow at less than the rate of inflation. But spending is already up nearly 8% (including defense) in the first year alone.

For a laugh-out-loud moment on all of this, we recommend yesterday's performance by New York Senator Chuck Schumer on NBC's "Meet the Press." Mr. Schumer declared that "Barack Obama and we Democrats—this is counterintuitive but true—are really trying to get a handle on balancing the budget and we're making real efforts to do it." Counterintiutive? He said this four days after Senate Democrats lost a vote to add $250 billion to the deficit for doctor payments without any compensating spending cuts.

Democrats must figure that they can get away with this sort of rap because no one will call them on the reality of what they're spending. And they're probably right about a press corps that has ignored the spending boom since Democrats took over Congress in 2006. Meanwhile, the spending machine rolls on, all but guaranteeing monumental future tax increases.

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Old 10-28-2009, 08:42 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I guess this is Fiscal Conservatism? No, this is gross irresponsibility. Liberalism IS fiscal irresponsibility.
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Liberalism IS fiscal irresponsibility.
That is just not true.

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I think it may be true....
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I think it may be true....
"Liberalism" is too complex a term to be so neatly and falsely boxed up.

Yes, liberal spenders are liberal spenders. Does that need to be said?

But social liberals can be the tightest of tight wads (as I've said, over and over and over and over).

So, these tossed off comments, meant to insult and inflame (and nothing else) are not helpful in a debate. They hijack threads and spread negativity around the board, discouraging posters from posting.

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So, these tossed off comments, meant to insult and inflame (and nothing else) are not helpful in a debate. They hijack threads and spread negativity around the board, discouraging posters from posting.
Deserves a 'gold star'. There is no longer discussion. It's on-going snark, backbiting, beating down, as if the goal here is not disucssion and debate it's to smack down and "win" some imaginary plaque. This bb is no longer fun, as witnessed by the abandonment of so many who used to be regulars.
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But social liberals can be the tightest of tight wads (as I've said, over and over and over and over).

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Maura, what do you think of Congress upping spending by over 12 percent? Congress spending is 6 times that of inflation. Can you make sense of that? What are we spending it on that we need so desperately?

Personally, it makes me a bit nauseous. I have 4 kids I'd like to see in college, and the inflation on college costs is doubling that times of inflation every year.

I think we need to take government's credit card away.
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Maura, what do you think of Congress upping spending by over 12 percent? Congress spending is 6 times that of inflation. Can you make sense of that? What are we spending it on that we need so desperately?
I don't know and I share your concern.

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I don't know and I share your concern.

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Maura.......concern at least warrants an exclamation point.
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