Dismantling America

DebbieDett · 10-27-2009, 09:21 AM

Dismantling America
By Thomas Sowell
October 27, 2009

Just one year ago, would you have believed that an unelected government official, not even a Cabinet member confirmed by the Senate but simply one of the many "czars" appointed by the President, could arbitrarily cut the pay of executives in private businesses by 50 percent or 90 percent?

Did you think that another "czar" would be talking about restricting talk radio? That there would be plans afloat to subsidize newspapers-- that is, to create a situation where some newspapers' survival would depend on the government liking what they publish?

Did you imagine that anyone would even be talking about having a panel of so-called "experts" deciding who could and could not get life-saving medical treatments?

Scary as that is from a medical standpoint, it is also chilling from the standpoint of freedom. If you have a mother who needs a heart operation or a child with some dire medical condition, how free would you feel to speak out against an administration that has the power to make life and death decisions about your loved ones?

Does any of this sound like America?

How about a federal agency giving school children material to enlist them on the side of the president? Merely being assigned to sing his praises in class is apparently not enough.

How much of America would be left if the federal government continued on this path? President Obama has already floated the idea of a national police force, something we have done without for more than two centuries.

We already have local police forces all across the country and military forces for national defense, as well as the FBI for federal crimes and the National Guard for local emergencies. What would be the role of a national police force created by Barack Obama, with all its leaders appointed by him? It would seem more like the brown shirts of dictators than like anything American.

How far the President will go depends of course on how much resistance he meets. But the direction in which he is trying to go tells us more than all his rhetoric or media spin.

Barack Obama has not only said that he is out to "change the United States of America," the people he has been associated with for years have expressed in words and deeds their hostility to the values, the principles and the people of this country.

Jeremiah Wright said it with words: "God **** America!" Bill Ayers said it with bombs that he planted. Community activist goons have said it with their contempt for the rights of other people.

Among the people appointed as czars by President Obama have been people who have praised enemy dictators like Mao, who have seen the public schools as places to promote sexual practices contrary to the values of most Americans, to a captive audience of children.

Those who say that the Obama administration should have investigated those people more thoroughly before appointing them are missing the point completely. Why should we assume that Barack Obama didn't know what such people were like, when he has been associating with precisely these kinds of people for decades before he reached the White House?
Nothing is more consistent with his lifelong patterns than putting such people in government-- people who reject American values, resent Americans in general and successful Americans in particular, as well as resenting America's influence in the world.

Any miscalculation on his part would be in not thinking that others would discover what these stealth appointees were like. Had it not been for the Fox News Channel, these stealth appointees might have remained unexposed for what they are. Fox News is now high on the administration's enemies list.

Nothing so epitomizes President Obama's own contempt for American values and traditions like trying to ram two bills through Congress in his first year-- each bill more than a thousand pages long-- too fast for either of them to be read, much less discussed. That he succeeded only the first time says that some people are starting to wake up. Whether enough people will wake up in time to keep America from being dismantled, piece by piece, is another question-- and the biggest question for this generation.

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Thomas Sowell is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, Stanford University, Stanford, CA 94305. His Web site is Thomas Sowell | Home.

**BC-Maura** · 10-27-2009, 09:35 AM

A storm is a brewin' .....

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Maura

robine · 10-27-2009, 09:40 AM

indeed there is

and the people are waking up

**BC-Maura** · 10-27-2009, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by robine

and the people are waking up

And smelling the coffee, which is also a brewin'....

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Maura

Julester · 10-27-2009, 09:50 AM

That is simply unamerican!

Lesley · 10-27-2009, 11:09 AM

ooops, Nixon and Bush all over again banning media lol.

Quote:

Did you imagine that anyone would even be talking about having a panel of so-called "experts" deciding who could and could not get life-saving medical treatments?

ANYTHING to get these deicsion out of the hands of insurance execs, and actuaries. AND it looks like sweeping healthcare reform may actually become a reality. Too bad single payer isn't the final result...really too bad.

andys · 10-27-2009, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by BC-Maura

And smelling the coffee, which is also a brewin'....

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Maura

So you dismiss everything in the article (as hype?), or accept it and just don't care?

intheknow · 10-27-2009, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Lesley

ooops, Nixon and Bush all over again banning media lol.

ANYTHING to get these deicsion out of the hands of insurance execs, and actuaries. AND it looks like sweeping healthcare reform may actually become a reality. Too bad single payer isn't the final result...really too bad.

You're just dyin' to get your free health care, aren't you?

**BC-tinatinva** · 10-27-2009, 12:32 PM

Anything to KEEP these decisions from the hands of politicians and bureacrats..

So, let's say worst case scenario and we have a SPS.. where do you think they are going to get those decision makers? Looks like a bunch of case reviewers and actuaries will be looking for work.. and the gov't will need folks who done this before..

So now we've just added a gov't layer.. same problems, same issues, more cost --- only now EVERYONE pays *except the congress - they have their own plan ya' know

*

**BC-Maura** · 10-27-2009, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andys

So you dismiss everything in the article (as hype?), or accept it and just don't care?

The article is just one big mischaracterization, filled with untruths, and so yes, I dismiss it. It is a good summary of the views of some people here, though.

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Maura

10-27-2009, 09:21 AM	#1 (permalink)
DebbieDett 700-799 post 9 of hearts Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Orange, California Posts: 761	Dismantling America Dismantling America By Thomas Sowell October 27, 2009 Just one year ago, would you have believed that an unelected government official, not even a Cabinet member confirmed by the Senate but simply one of the many "czars" appointed by the President, could arbitrarily cut the pay of executives in private businesses by 50 percent or 90 percent? Did you think that another "czar" would be talking about restricting talk radio? That there would be plans afloat to subsidize newspapers-- that is, to create a situation where some newspapers' survival would depend on the government liking what they publish? Did you imagine that anyone would even be talking about having a panel of so-called "experts" deciding who could and could not get life-saving medical treatments? Scary as that is from a medical standpoint, it is also chilling from the standpoint of freedom. If you have a mother who needs a heart operation or a child with some dire medical condition, how free would you feel to speak out against an administration that has the power to make life and death decisions about your loved ones? Does any of this sound like America? How about a federal agency giving school children material to enlist them on the side of the president? Merely being assigned to sing his praises in class is apparently not enough. How much of America would be left if the federal government continued on this path? President Obama has already floated the idea of a national police force, something we have done without for more than two centuries. We already have local police forces all across the country and military forces for national defense, as well as the FBI for federal crimes and the National Guard for local emergencies. What would be the role of a national police force created by Barack Obama, with all its leaders appointed by him? It would seem more like the brown shirts of dictators than like anything American. How far the President will go depends of course on how much resistance he meets. But the direction in which he is trying to go tells us more than all his rhetoric or media spin. Barack Obama has not only said that he is out to "change the United States of America," the people he has been associated with for years have expressed in words and deeds their hostility to the values, the principles and the people of this country. Jeremiah Wright said it with words: "God **** America!" Bill Ayers said it with bombs that he planted. Community activist goons have said it with their contempt for the rights of other people. Among the people appointed as czars by President Obama have been people who have praised enemy dictators like Mao, who have seen the public schools as places to promote sexual practices contrary to the values of most Americans, to a captive audience of children. Those who say that the Obama administration should have investigated those people more thoroughly before appointing them are missing the point completely. Why should we assume that Barack Obama didn't know what such people were like, when he has been associating with precisely these kinds of people for decades before he reached the White House? Nothing is more consistent with his lifelong patterns than putting such people in government-- people who reject American values, resent Americans in general and successful Americans in particular, as well as resenting America's influence in the world. Any miscalculation on his part would be in not thinking that others would discover what these stealth appointees were like. Had it not been for the Fox News Channel, these stealth appointees might have remained unexposed for what they are. Fox News is now high on the administration's enemies list. Nothing so epitomizes President Obama's own contempt for American values and traditions like trying to ram two bills through Congress in his first year-- each bill more than a thousand pages long-- too fast for either of them to be read, much less discussed. That he succeeded only the first time says that some people are starting to wake up. Whether enough people will wake up in time to keep America from being dismantled, piece by piece, is another question-- and the biggest question for this generation. --- Thomas Sowell is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, Stanford University, Stanford, CA 94305. His Web site is Thomas Sowell \| Home. __________________ AnnaGrace Roanne born February 8th, 2006 Gabrielle Amelia born February 8th, 2006 Mary Katharine b/d February 8th, 2006- Beloved baby girl and Lil sister

10-27-2009, 09:40 AM	#3 (permalink)
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BC-tinatinva Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Virginia USA Posts: 4,574 Blog Entries: 49	Anything to KEEP these decisions from the hands of politicians and bureacrats.. So, let's say worst case scenario and we have a SPS.. where do you think they are going to get those decision makers? Looks like a bunch of case reviewers and actuaries will be looking for work.. and the gov't will need folks who done this before.. So now we've just added a gov't layer.. same problems, same issues, more cost --- only now EVERYONE pays except the congress - they have their own plan ya' know __________________ Tinatinva DD 01/09/01 DS 10/22/03 DS 06-19-06 My 3 FET miracles!!! "Unbelief cannot live in the sunlight of fellowship with God." - F.B. Meyer

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10-27-2009, 09:35 AM	#2 (permalink)
BC-Maura Board Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 12,945	A storm is a brewin' ..... +++++++++++++ Maura

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