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Old 10-26-2009, 08:45 AM   #11 (permalink)
 
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If the businesses are "government regulated" then why shouldn't the government be able to regulate the businesses by controlling salaries?

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You are kidding me right? Take a look at what you are saying..

You are saying that ANY business that has ANY regulatatory agency setting guidelines is subject to governement control of salaries???

Nice to see your true colors comrade.

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Old 10-26-2009, 08:49 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I think she meant that no one needs to say "goodbye" to capitalism because of these regulations.

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In response to the title of my post 'say good-bye to capitalism', Lesley responded with 'about freaking' time'.
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Old 10-26-2009, 10:06 AM   #13 (permalink)
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About freaking time. They take bail out money, there are strings. Easy and should have been expected. "Business as usual" for those bailed out institutions, on the public's dime, is not acceptable.
be careful what you ask for..in the sense of being fair, one could say if a person takes govt money, then the govt should have some say in their way of life..That IS what you are saying..

so are you prepared for all those in subsidized housing to have the govt tell them they can not smoke/eat pork rinds/chips/junk food etc.. or that they can not have another child since they are taking govt funds?

how about the person who has a govt loan for student activities? should the govt TELL them what they have to study? what they can not take? I personally feel some classes in colleges are bogus, so should some govt muckity muck insert his or her view?

You get govt subsidies for child care?? you better not have another child

You get a some govt funds for food in the form of food stamps?
Well, put back that pepperoni pizza and grab some parsnips instead


see??? slippery slope..or are you saying only rich white old reps should have the govt up their noses??


which way will it be????????????????????????
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Old 10-26-2009, 10:09 AM   #14 (permalink)
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All talk. Just like the death panels, just like killing off grandma, just like Obama is an Arab and a Moslem etc etc etc. All amounts to a hill of beans and someone's opinions doesn't make it so.
AM I missing something??? when asked by a lady whose 100 year old mother had received a pace maker what would happen to her mother under Obamacare, I recall BO saying maybe she should have been given a pain pill

HE said it.....deal with it

this is not Bush, me or some other mean old rich white chick...this was BO talking


please parse it and tell me what he MEANT???
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Old 10-26-2009, 10:42 AM   #15 (permalink)
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You are kidding me right? Take a look at what you are saying..

You are saying that ANY business that has ANY regulatatory agency setting guidelines is subject to governement control of salaries???

Nice to see your true colors comrade.
Excuse me? I am offended by your calling me a communist.

I didn't say that ANY business that has ANY regulatory agency setting guidelines is subject to government control of salaries.

I was responding to the article talking about the government controlling salaries of businesses it was regulating. The article talks about banks and auto manufacturers. The same entities that were given bail-out money, by the way.

I saw nothing in the article about how the Fed/Treasury is trying to control salaries at other businesses it regulates, but which it has not bailed out (like pharmaceutical companies, for example). I think that line that Pearls bolded is highly misleading.

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Old 10-26-2009, 10:46 AM   #16 (permalink)
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In response to the title of my post 'say good-bye to capitalism', Lesley responded with 'about freaking' time'.
I was responding (and I think the rest of my narrative served as that clarification), to the idea that those institutions receiving bail out money should not be playing free and easy with 'business as usual' on the tax payers dime. I think you actually knew that and you were just trying to twist the response into something else.
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Old 10-26-2009, 10:46 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Nice to see your true colors comrade.
Nice.

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I think that line that Pearls bolded is highly misleading.
and hence my response that saying/implying something, isn't reality.
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Old 10-26-2009, 11:11 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I say if it looks like a duck, walks like a ducka nd quacks like a duck . . . it's a duck.

The government being involved in private enterprise is merely the camels nose under the tent. Get ready for entire camel as soon as Obama is through playing golf.
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Old 10-26-2009, 11:20 AM   #19 (permalink)
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I say if it looks like a duck, walks like a ducka nd quacks like a duck . . . it's a duck.
Unless the person's own filter is making it impossible to see that the the bird is actually not quacking or walking like a duck at all.

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Unlike Feinberg's more limited plan, the Fed's guidance would cover all banks it regulates -- even those that never received a bailout -- as well as U.S. subsidiaries of foreign companies.
Those that received bailouts should, in the short term, be subject to more restrictions. Those that didn't - shouldn't. I also don't agree with the subsidiaries rules. They should be subject to U.S. taxation laws, but financial matters should be determined by the parent company and the laws it is governed by.
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