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Old 03-13-2009, 06:10 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Obama Falls to Earth

Well, I thought the good love clouds would keep him buoyed a bit longer, but I guess not. With people's pocket books running dry, reality has finally slapped them with some common sense.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123690358175013837.html
MARCH 12, 2009, 11:49 P.M. ET
Obama's Poll Numbers Are Falling to Earth
By DOUGLAS E. SCHOEN and SCOTT RASMUSSEN

It is simply wrong for commentators to continue to focus on President Barack Obama's high levels of popularity, and to conclude that these are indicative of high levels of public confidence in the work of his administration. Indeed, a detailed look at recent survey data shows that the opposite is most likely true. The American people are coming to express increasingly significant doubts about his initiatives, and most likely support a different agenda and different policies from those that the Obama administration has advanced.

Polling data show that Mr. Obama's approval rating is dropping and is below where George W. Bush was in an analogous period in 2001. Rasmussen Reports data shows that Mr. Obama's net presidential approval rating -- which is calculated by subtracting the number who strongly disapprove from the number who strongly approve -- is just six, his lowest rating to date.

M.E. CohenOverall, Rasmussen Reports shows a 56%-43% approval, with a third strongly disapproving of the president's performance. This is a substantial degree of polarization so early in the administration. Mr. Obama has lost virtually all of his Republican support and a good part of his Independent support, and the trend is decidedly negative.

A detailed examination of presidential popularity after 50 days on the job similarly demonstrates a substantial drop in presidential approval relative to other elected presidents in the 20th and 21st centuries. The reason for this decline most likely has to do with doubts about the administration's policies and their impact on peoples' lives.

There is also a clear sense in the polling that taxes will increase for all Americans because of the stimulus, notwithstanding what the president has said about taxes going down for 95% of Americans. Close to three-quarters expect that government spending will grow under this administration.

Recent Gallup data echo these concerns. That polling shows that there are deep-seeded, underlying economic concerns. Eighty-three percent say they are worried that the steps Mr. Obama is taking to fix the economy may not work and the economy will get worse. Eighty-two percent say they are worried about the amount of money being added to the deficit. Seventy-eight percent are worried about inflation growing, and 69% say they are worried about the increasing role of the government in the U.S. economy.

When Gallup asked whether we should be spending more or less in the economic stimulus, by close to 3-to-1 margin voters said it is better to have spent less than to have spent more. When asked whether we are adding too much to the deficit or spending too little to improve the economy, by close to a 3-to-2 margin voters said that we are adding too much to the deficit.

Support for the stimulus package is dropping from narrow majority support to below that. There is no sense that the stimulus package itself will work quickly, and according to a recent Wall Street Journal/NBC poll, close to 60% said it would make only a marginal difference in the next two to four years. Rasmussen data shows that people now actually oppose Mr. Obama's budget, 46% to 41%. Three-quarters take this position because it will lead to too much spending. And by 2-to-1, voters reject House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's call for a second stimulus package.

While over two-thirds support the plan to help homeowners refinance their mortgage, a 48%-36% plurality said that it will unfairly benefit those who have been irresponsible, echoing Rick Santelli's call to arms on CNBC.

And although a narrow majority remains confident in Mr. Obama's goals and overall direction, 45% say they do not have confidence, a number that has been growing since the inauguration less than two months ago. With three-quarters saying that they expect the economy to get worse, it is hard to see these numbers improving substantially.

There is no real appetite for increasing taxes to pay for an expanded health-insurance program. Less than half would support such an idea, which is 17% less than the percentage that supported government health insurance when Bill Clinton first considered it in March of 1993.

While voters blame Republicans for the lack of bipartisanship in Washington, the fact is that they do not believe Mr. Obama has made any progress in improving the impulse towards cooperation between the two parties. Further, nearly half of voters say that politics in Washington will be more partisan over the next year.

Fifty-six percent of Americans oppose giving bankers any additional government money or any guarantees backed by the government. Two-thirds say Wall Street will benefit more than the average taxpayer from the new bank bailout plan. This represents a jump in opposition to the first plan passed last October. At that time, 45% opposed the bailout and 30% supported it. Now a solid majority opposes the bank bailout, and 20% think it was a good idea. A majority believes that Mr. Obama will not be able to cut the deficit in half by the end of his term.

Only less than a quarter of Americans believe that the federal government truly reflects the will of the people. Almost half disagree with the idea that no one can earn a living or live "an American life" without protection and empowerment by the government, while only one-third agree.

Despite the economic stimulus that Congress just passed and the budget and financial and mortgage bailouts that Congress is now debating, just 19% of voters believe that Congress has passed any significant legislation to improve their lives. While Congress's approval has increased, it still stands at only 18%. Over two-thirds of voters believe members of Congress are more interested in helping their own careers than in helping the American people. When it comes to the nation's economic issues, two-thirds of voters have more confidence in their own judgment than they do in the average member of Congress.

Finally, what probably accounts for a good measure of the confidence and support the Obama administration has enjoyed is the fact that they are not Republicans. Virtually all Americans, more than eight in 10, blame Republicans for the current economic woes, and the only two leaders with lower approval ratings than Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi are Republican leaders Mitch McConnell and John Boehner.

All of this is not just a subject for pollsters and analysts to debate. It shows fundamentally that public confidence in government remains low and is slipping. We face the possibility of substantial gridlock along with an absolute absence of public confidence that could come to mirror the lack of confidence in the American economy that the Dow and the S&P are currently showing.

Mr. Schoen, formerly a pollster for President Bill Clinton, is the author of "Declaring Independence: The Beginning of the End of the Two Party System" (Random House, 2008). Mr. Rasmussen is president of Rasmussen Reports, an independent national polling company.
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Old 03-13-2009, 06:29 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I have been tracking Rasmussen and see how the approval ratings and the one they get by subtracting bad from good has dropped dramatically


A high of 28 right after the election down to 6 earlier this week albeit creeping back to 9 yesterday. ( Must reflect those easily fooled by the "coolness" of attacking Rush as a last desperate attempt to deflect)

Looks like the re education camps may get a bit crowded
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Old 03-13-2009, 06:41 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Polling data show that Mr. Obama's approval rating is dropping and is below where George W. Bush was in an analogous period in 2001.
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An op ed, using Rasmussen?...the people that pushed and pushed and massaged numbers to reflect a closer game with McCain than really existed....that non partisan polling group? Got it. My guess is that the author of this article is hoping that like minded (meaning Rep) people are so trusting of his Rasmussen Poll interpretations, they won't take the time to look at the stats themselves.

Regardless of any drop that may occur, given the economy and the general woes of the nation why is anyone surprised?...there is no way the reality of his 67% to 70% popularity rating was going to be sustained. EVERYONE, even the Dems predicted that one. Still actually waiting for the 'real' drop to occur.

But lets see directly from Rasmussem, rather that some massaged interpretation op ed piece.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ..._tracking_poll
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The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows that 38% of the nation’s voters now Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Twenty-nine percent (29%) now Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of +9 (see trends).....
Consumer and investor confidence has bounced to its highest level since late January.
According to those trends the article suggests that we go see, for the month of March, Obama approval rating is NOT plummeting, but is actually better than 8 other days this month. It's certainly not at it's overall highest. His stats for those that 'strongly approve' appears to have remained about average, the states for those that "strongly disapprove" has remained constant too. So a big raspberry to yet another of a string of posts trying so hard to promote some sort of neo-con affirmation.
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Old 03-13-2009, 08:14 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Hey Rasmussen was the libs Bible here when it showed McCain losing..SO which is it?? a reputable source or not?? reputable only when it touts what you WANT to hear....

BTW the Presidential approval index being the highest since Jan requires a bit more investigating..Shall we???

Let me translate from "liberal to English"



OK...the facts are true..they are the highest since JAN...HOWEVER in JAN right after the CORONATION, his PAI was in the 28...It PLUNGED in Feb..now in the spotlight glow from the three ring circus the dems have hastily created to spotlight the RUSH fiasco, the numbers have started to slither back up...3 whole points since last Monday BUT that is peanuts compared to the almost 20 point avalanche that occurred in the past 3 or 4 weeks







See, it is always better to use ones noddle to dig through the libspeak the media tosses out

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You see normalization of the numbers as a plummet to earth...I see it simply as a normalization of the numbers.

And Yes Rasmussen consistently was the lone wolf trying to bolster McCain's standing. When the Libs used the numbers Rasmussen finaly had to concede to, it was the sweet taste of proving what all the other polls had been predicting....relishing that Rasmussed finally had to concede.
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An op ed, using Rasmussen?...the people that pushed and pushed and massaged numbers to reflect a closer game with McCain than really existed....that non partisan polling group? Got it. My guess is that the author of this article is hoping that like minded (meaning Rep) people are so trusting of his Rasmussen Poll interpretations, they won't take the time to look at the stats themselves.
Your guess would be wrong. Because you did not 'take the time' to read the whole article through to the bottom and see that Mr. Shoen is a Clinton pollster, and if you would take just 2 seconds to Google him, you would see he is a huge dem supporter. He writes a blog for HuffPo.
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His past association and current association with numerous governments via social and non-profit associations doesn't detract from the idea that the op-ed piece is misleading.
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His past association and current association with numerous governments via social and non-profit associations doesn't detract from the idea that the op-ed piece is misleading.
Shoen was an advisor to Bill Clinton from 1994 to 2000.
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that would be considered a past association...and I conceded that.
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