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Old 12-01-2008, 12:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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We won the war/article.

This was passed on to me/maybe some here have also seen it.
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Once again our news chooses what THEY want us to read! I checked it out on www.truthorfiction.com & they confirmed it was true; BUT once again snopes did not appear to speak to it - again chooosing what they want us to know.
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Ready for a shock? Below is an article from the London Times about our military. Interesting, it is! Our media coverage is shameful!

Winning Isn't News

By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY

Iraq: What would happen if the U.S. won a war but the media didn't tell the American public? Apparently, we have to rely on a British newspaper for the news that we've defeated the last remnants of al-Qaida in Iraq .

London's Sunday Times called it "the culmination of one of the most spectacular victories of the war on terror." A terrorist force that once numbered more than 12,000, with strongholds in the west and central regions of Iraq, has over two years been reduced to a mere 1,200 fighters, backed against the wall in the northern city of Mosul.

The destruction of al-Qaida in Iraq (AQI) is one of the most unlikely and unforeseen events in the long history of American warfare. We can thank President Bush's surge strategy, in which he bucked both Republican and Democratic leaders inWashington by increasing our forces there instead of surrendering. We can also thank the leadership of the new general he placed in charge there, David Petraeus, who may be the foremost expert in the world on counter-insurgency warfare. And we can thank those serving in our military in Iraq who engaged local Iraqi tribal leaders and convinced them America was their friend and AQI their enemy.

Al-Qaida's loss of the hearts and minds of ordinary Iraqis began in Anbar Province, which had been written off as a basket case, and spread out from there.

Now, in Operation Lion's Roar the Iraqi army and the U.S. 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment is destroying the fraction of terrorists who are left. More than 1,000 AQI operatives have already been apprehended.

Sunday Times reporter Marie Colvin, traveling with Iraqi forces in Mosul, found little AQI presence even in bullet-ridden residential areas that were once insurgency strongholds, and reported that the terrorists have lost control of its Mosul urban base, with what is left of the organization having fled south into the countryside.

Meanwhile, the State Department reports that Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's government has achieved "satisfactory" progress on 15 of the 18 political benchmarks "a big change for the better from a year ago." Things are going so well that Maliki has even for the first time floated the idea of a timetable for withdrawal of American forces. He did so while visiting the United Arab Emirates, which over the weekend announced that it was forgiving almost $7 billion of debt owed by Baghdad, an impressive vote of confidence from a fellow Arab state in the future of a free Iraq.

But where are the headlines and the front-page stories about all this good news? As the Media Research Center pointed out last week, "the CBS Evening News, NBC Nightly News and CNN's Anderson Cooper 360 were silent Tuesday night about the benchmarks "that signaled political progress." The war in Iraq has been turned around180 degrees both militarily and politically because the president stuck to his guns. Yet apart from IBD, Fox News Channel and parts of the foreign press, the media don't seem to consider this historic event a big story.

Copyright 2008 Investor's Business Daily. All Rights Reserved.

Addendum: The reason you haven't seen this on American television or read about it in the American press is simple--journalism is "dead" in this country. They are controlled by Liberal Democrats who would rather see our troops defeated than recognize a successful Republican initiated response to 9/11.

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Old 12-01-2008, 01:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Bush has had some prime time on-air opportunities to state these facts. So why didn't he? Shame on Fox News fand CNN for letting the ball drop on this one.

Ever notice what one media outlet thinks is news worthy, becomes news worthy for all the competitors too? They just add their own little twist.

Still, went to the site you linked and from there went to the London Times Online article http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle4276486.ece A slightly different spin that the one your c&p had. The Times on Line articles from way back in May and July and recent activites leads me to think that our miitary must have realized in June, that it was premature to state Al Q had been defeated. One Cell in Mosul appears to have been taken care of, but many more had dispersed to other locations. Another link on the Times on Line, indicated another article showing terrorist enjoying the freedom to set up of 3 training camps in Pakistan. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle4251551.ece Perhaps the recent activites in India suggest that it's not yet time to lower our guard with regard to terrorism, and certainly not time to claim the war is won. It would have been nice to read that this one battle had been won though.
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Old 12-01-2008, 02:25 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Why does it always come around to everything be Bush's fault..it is truly getting old.

Can't wait to see what is his fault when BO takes over
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Hey Robine, you talking to me?

I'm saying there was probably a reason Bush DIDN'T speak out on this 6 months ago. Certainly McCain would have used this to his advantage during the campaign...no? I'm not fostering blame on Bush for this lack of news. I'm saying that maybe this isn't the big cover up some are trying to make it out to be. Hmmm, maybe you are not talking to me after all?

As for things to blame on Bush, previously, now or after Obama takes office...there's already plenty there, no need to start making anything up.
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There is no "winning" to this mess. The evils of the world will not be defeated by US troops, or coalition forces ever. There's always going to be a terrorist group in one form or fashion lurking out there. To say the past 7+ years is a "war" is really stretching it. It's been a money making project for contractors galore, it's torn families apart (those of our military and those residing in the countries that are inundated with bullets and bombs daily), and really I don't see an end in sight as long as there are people alive. I think the ultimate goal for the US in some minds is to make anyone who isn't like us, doesn't think like us, doens't share the general desires as us we're going to make a victim in some manner, be it through weapons of metal or money. So technically speaking we're always going to be in a war. And while all our focus is in the "stans" meanwhile Panama, Argentina, and other southern neighbors are holding hands with Russia more every day.
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Old 12-03-2008, 02:14 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Don't worry Robine, your friend Barry will skate for years, maybe his entire 4 years if he lasts that long.

My prediction though, is an Obama presidential term of 2 years or less. He will be either resign or be impeached. His lack of sound judgment exhibited in the last 10 years will not be ameliorated when he swears to uphold the Constitution with his fingers crossed behind his back.
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Here's a little article referring to the impeachment train of thought:
Impeach Obama, Already? Robert McHenry 10 November 2008
I know that the election is less than a week behind us and it’s still about 70 days until he’s sworn in and actually takes up the reins of power. And there’s still what’s-his-name there in the White House, actually holding those reins right now and for the next ten weeks. But surely we’ve had enough time to get used to the idea of the new guy and start criticizing his performance. It is the national sport, after all.

This may strike some readers as levity, but I assure you, the critics are out there, not losing a moment. And I mean harsh critics: At least two “Impeach Obama” groups have popped up on one of those inane “social web” sites that I decline to name, and I found an online site from which to order “Impeach Obama” bumperstickers – $3.95 apiece if you pride yourself on your individuality but only about two bucks six bits in quantities of 250 or more to those organizing for action.

A plausible theory for such people would be that we know he’s going to do something we absolutely hate as soon as he can, so we might as well exploit this pre-inaugural period to gain some momentum. But a more likely one is that he’s already done it, by getting elected, by getting nominated, by getting through Harvard Law School, or for that matter by getting born.

What you just gotta love about the Web is how it brings the world’s morons right to you, relaxing there in your den or lounging in bed or peering at your tiny little phone while getting your Starbucks fix. Whatever did we do when we had to rely on the happenstance of graffiti?

Anyway, graffiti used to run along the lines of “Bird lives” and “Yankee go home,” showing that the criminal had at least the ability to memorize a meaningful phrase and then spell it. But now that it’s an art form and it requires only the ability to press down with the index finger, it consists of unintelligible visual gibberish, though sometimes it is nicely shaded. There used to be a minor street gang in Chicago called the Latin Eagles. Someone in the neighborhood bought his own spray can and went around amending their tags to Eatin Bagles. This was before the blogosphere but clearly anticipated the role of the blog commenter.

As Mort Sahl used to say, “Are there any groups I haven’t offended yet?”

Thank heaven, then, for the likes of Steve Chapman of the Chicago Tribune, who published this fine column the other day on our president-elect. Chapman is a conservative commentator who yet takes the peculiar view that a man who disagrees with him is not thereby rendered an enemy of the state. I’d like to buy the gentleman a beer, somewhere where there’s no WiFi.

Another thought to keep in mind: consider who would then be President and VP if that would happen. Now that should give you fodder to ponder for awhile. No president has been impeached. Good link for the lowdown on impeachment process: http://www.phoneblockade.org/index.p...d=11&Itemid=16
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Obama has several firsts in his resume . . .
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