Miss Conceptions: The invisible pregnancies of presidential daughters.

[intheknow]

http://www.slate.com/id/2199086/

Miss Conceptions

The invisible pregnancies of presidential daughters.

Is Sarah Palin the first nominee on a major-party presidential ticket whose daughter got pregnant out of wedlock? Or is she just the first whose daughter didn't get an abortion?

The reason you're reading about Bristol Palin's pregnancy is that she's taking it to term. If she had aborted it, you'd never have known. Which raises the question: How many other daughters of nominees have gotten knocked up without your knowledge?

Let's make a list of unintended-pregnancy candidates going back to, say, 1964. To be conservative, let's draw a ceiling at age 30. That rules out Alexandra Kerry and Rebecca Lieberman, who were 31 when their fathers ran, as well as **** Cheney's and Lloyd Bentsen's daughters. And let's draw a floor at 17, Bristol Palin's age. That rules out Chelsea Clinton (who was 12 when her dad won), Amy Carter (who was 13 when her dad ran for re-election), and Corinne Quayle (who was 14 when her dad lost). Here's the pared-down list:

Read the article HERE . It's very interesting. I took special interest in the last paragraph:

Remember that before you judge or poke fun at Sarah Palin. She's not the candidate whose daughter messed up. She's the candidate who didn't get rid of the mess.

[sweet em]

I can't believe I'm posting on this thread - I'm learning that I am NOT one for conflict.

I only post because I wonder the same thing about all the little teenage starlets out there. Your telling me Ashley Spears (is that her name?) is the first to get pregnant!?

[MamaBear]

Originally Posted by sweet em

I can't believe I'm posting on this thread - I'm learning that I am NOT one for conflict.

I only post because I wonder the same thing about all the little teenage starlets out there. Your telling me Ashley Spears (is that her name?) is the first to get pregnant!?

Jamie Lynn is her name. Why do I even know that? And yes, I doubt very much she is the only one.....she just chose a different and obvious path.

[MamaBear]

Originally Posted by intheknow

http://www.slate.com/id/2199086/

Miss Conceptions

The invisible pregnancies of presidential daughters.

Is Sarah Palin the first nominee on a major-party presidential ticket whose daughter got pregnant out of wedlock? Or is she just the first whose daughter didn't get an abortion?

The reason you're reading about Bristol Palin's pregnancy is that she's taking it to term. If she had aborted it, you'd never have known. Which raises the question: How many other daughters of nominees have gotten knocked up without your knowledge?

Let's make a list of unintended-pregnancy candidates going back to, say, 1964. To be conservative, let's draw a ceiling at age 30. That rules out Alexandra Kerry and Rebecca Lieberman, who were 31 when their fathers ran, as well as **** Cheney's and Lloyd Bentsen's daughters. And let's draw a floor at 17, Bristol Palin's age. That rules out Chelsea Clinton (who was 12 when her dad won), Amy Carter (who was 13 when her dad ran for re-election), and Corinne Quayle (who was 14 when her dad lost). Here's the pared-down list:

Read the article HERE . It's very interesting. I took special interest in the last paragraph:

Remember that before you judge or poke fun at Sarah Palin. She's not the candidate whose daughter messed up. She's the candidate who didn't get rid of the mess.

Doesn't really matter if they did it while their Dad's were candidates or in office.....they could have done it before, during or after and none of us would be the wiser. It could be safe to assume that most of these women have engaged in the exact same act as young, unmarried women that Bristol Palin has.....but apparently it's okay to blast only her for it, because she has an obvious result whereas the others didn't. It'd be interesting to see how many condemning her for it here did the same thing when they were younger and it was okay for them and not her.

[Lesley]

I don't know if any of htem have had abortions. You want to guess at that number? Are you sure? What I am willing to bet is that most of them are familiar with and have obtained birth control. Thereby reducing the thing you are trying to implicate as the preferred method of birth control...abortion.

[intheknow]

Originally Posted by Lesley

I don't know if any of htem have had abortions. You want to guess at that number? Are you sure? What I am willing to bet is that most of them are familiar with and have obtained birth control. Thereby reducing the thing you are trying to implicate as the preferred method of birth control...abortion.

The article cited the statistics and then extrapolated from them what the probabilities were. Nothing more. Just as I don't know if any of them did have abortions, you don't know if any of them did not. The statistics, on the other hand, shows the probability that some of them may have. That's the point.

[MamaBear]

Originally Posted by Lesley

I don't know if any of htem have had abortions. You want to guess at that number? Are you sure? What I am willing to bet is that most of them are familiar with and have obtained birth control. Thereby reducing the thing you are trying to implicate as the preferred method of birth control...abortion.

That's still under the assumption that Bristol Palin didn't......as not one of us know. The point is that more than likely ALL of them have engaged in the same act.....it's just that we only see an end result with her. We're not assuming that any of them actually had an abortion, ever. Just that it's entirely possible. So, why blast and punish one girl for commiting the same "sin".....just because it's obvious she did? The result of the act is the same (a baby) no matter what choice is made to do with it in the end. The act is the sin/mistake.....the baby is a result. So, what is she being railed on for......having sex? Because at this point it's assumption that she was not "protected." If abortion was used as a means of BC for any of the other women......well, I guess it let them save face for making the exact same mistake.....right?

[Caro2]

You know we don't talk about it because her dd got pg at 17 or did not or had an abortion yes or not or others daughters had abortions, none of my business, I am pro-choice. I guess we talk about this because Mrs. Palin is supposedly against birth control pill and is on the crusade to prone abstinence in young unmarried..wow great track record I am not against (what ever she can think what ever she wants) any of that but she cannot even prone abstinence within her own home how on earth is she going to go and tell others to not have sex she obviously cannot send the message within her own home. She can't even prepare her own daughter to abstinence much less birth control pill so she is obviously not very well equipped to do a good job in the department.

I wonder if McCain knew any of that before he choose her but in 15 min meeting with her I doubt they had time to chat much, I would be more worried about this guy impulse than her and her ideas they obviously make no impact.

[robine]

MRS Palin is NOT against BCP

What she is against, is the use of FEDERAL $$$$ to establish in school clinics that will dispense BCPs willy nilly to 12 year olds without parental consent or a physical exam
would you want your 12 year old to get a free RX of BCP without your knowledge??

AND she is against the EXPLICIT sex ed like what was going on in a county near me a few years back


it bordered on ____ographic and I am not a prude..


I also have heard that i the meeting was well over 3 hours and not 15 mins AND that it was not the first meeting

facts tend to go a long way

[BC-MAV]

And BC was a family man who did --- in the white house with an intern?