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Old 07-03-2008, 02:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So Obama "Worked" his way through college?

2 summer jobs doesn't quite mean "working your way through college" to me.

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Old 07-03-2008, 07:44 PM   #2 (permalink)
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From the site you posted: Actually, the Illinois law was a required follow-up to the 1996 federal welfare reform law worked out by President Clinton and the Republican Congress. Welfare rolls did go down by nearly as much as the ad says, but Obama can't claim sole credit.

You do realize the credit still goes to a democrat, right?
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Old 07-03-2008, 09:16 PM   #3 (permalink)
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From the site you posted: Actually, the Illinois law was a required follow-up to the 1996 federal welfare reform law worked out by President Clinton and the Republican Congress. Welfare rolls did go down by nearly as much as the ad says, but Obama can't claim sole credit.

You do realize the credit still goes to a democrat, right?
Um, if you're going to bold something...let's include all the pertinent info shall we?

Actually, the Illinois law was a required follow-up to the 1996 federal welfare reform law worked out by President Clinton and the Republican Congress. Welfare rolls did go down by nearly as much as the ad says, but Obama can't claim sole credit.

Yeah, a joint effort between the parties. Somehow, Obama left that part out. Gee, I wonder why???
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Old 07-04-2008, 08:39 AM   #4 (permalink)
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It is my opinion that Obama did NOT work his way through college. He lied again.
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It is my opinion that Obama did NOT work his way through college. He lied again.
NO! NO!!!!!! It's not a lie - it's a "mis-speak"
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Old 07-04-2008, 09:49 AM   #6 (permalink)
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It is my opinion that Obama did NOT work his way through college. He lied again.
What is your definition of "worked his way through college?" He got college loans and had to pay them back. He didnt get scholarships, grants and his parents didnt pay for it.
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Old 07-04-2008, 12:35 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Lulu, ITK can tell you his own definition, but mine is this.

I worked year round, while attending school. I paid my own rent, food, bills, some tuition, took out loans, had scholarships, etc...

Working a summer job or two is not "working your way through college" according to anyone I know. My niece was in a sorority, didn't have to pay rent (her parents split it). She worked for spending money only..and it was during the summers. She'll tell you she "didn't have to work while in school" meaning, she CHOSE to work, but certainly didn't have to in order to survive.

I doubt very much Mr. Obama ever had the "oh sh!t" moment when the disconnection notice for gas or electric arrived, or bummed $10 off a roommate to get food for the week (I don't eat much mac-n-cheese because of that time in my life lol), or wondered whether or not he'd be able to afford his apartment so that he could go to school.

Finances were certainly "creative" back then, but I learned a lot and make good, sound decisions now because of it. I see nothing wrong with it and am glad I made it through, even if it was on mac-n-cheese or spaghettios.

Obama wants you to think he supported himself and had to work and put himself through. But the reality of what most/many American college students go through and what he did are far different in my book.
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Old 07-04-2008, 01:04 PM   #8 (permalink)
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What is your definition of "worked his way through college?" He got college loans and had to pay them back. He didnt get scholarships, grants and his parents didnt pay for it.
Do you know that his family didn't pay for any of his education or support? do you know if he paid off his loans or is they were paid off by his employers or political supporters? do you know for a fact that he didn't get any scholarships or grants? I see that he held 2 summer jobs over his 8 years of college. that is NOT working his way through college. The idea of "working your way through college" is generally taken to mean that you went to class, then to work and your work supported you and paid for your college expenses left over after grants, loans, scholarships, etc. . . If Obama is going to portray himself as the commoner that worked his through college,was raised by a single mother and struggled like the rest of us, then I would suggest he come up with some better credentials than a private school education and not having to struggle financially to get through college.

I sincerely doubt that Obama was ever really concerned about his financial ability to finish either his undergraduate degree at Columbia or his law degree from Harvard.
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He worked while he was a college student and his earnings paid for part of his financial ability to go to school. Even at a state school, working 20-30 hours/week and fulltime during the summer, I still needed loans and scholarships and family help - there's simply no ability to fully finance one's own education without some kind of help.

I haven't read anywhere that he said he fully financed his education through his jobs. He probably did what the rest of us did - cobbled together his resources til he had enough to get by. Some work, some loans, some family help - what in the world is wrong with that??? As for the term "worked your way through college" - perhaps in conjures up different things for different people. For me, if he had jobs and used those funds to help pay for his education, that's enough. I defy you to find a single student at a private school who pays for it all out of their earnings (OK, there's probably some scary entrepreneur like Bill Gates out there who did, but you know what I mean!).

We know he has foregone a much more lucrative career than he could have had in order to dedicate himself to public service. I think it's interesting that nobody attacks that - perhaps because you can't?
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Old 07-06-2008, 05:43 PM   #10 (permalink)
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We know he has foregone a much more lucrative career than he could have had in order to dedicate himself to public service. I think it's interesting that nobody attacks that - perhaps because you can't?
He lives in a multi-million dollar house, his wife makes about $350,000 a year and he has his salary of of a US senator of $180,000. Not to mention his book earnings. Where is this lucrative career he missed? Sounds to me like he's "made it". Certainly you are not seriously trying to say that he has been sacrificing for his constituents, are you? I can't seem to see where he has sacrificed anything . . . except his integrity.
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