confused on HCG counts!!!

aspice · 07-24-2009, 05:58 PM

Hello everyone! I'm not sure how this forum works but hoping that some1 can help me understand about HCG counts. I'm currently on my 2nd IVF but of course the 1st time did not have a good result. I've been reading over thousands of threads & forums about these IVF. I had my ET done on 7/17/09 w/3 full blast embryos. The had froze 2 embryos. On Wed 7/22, I had BW done w/a HCG of 5. Friday 7/24, my HCG went up to 18.2. I am so confused why is it so low being that my PDO was on 7/12??? Please help me understand if u been in my situation....
Thanks,
Aspice

LMKH · 07-24-2009, 08:33 PM

You had day 3 embryos transferred 5 days before the first test? That makes them day 8 embryos at that first test? If this is correct, I am understanding your post correctly, your numbers are great and I am shocked they took your betas so early. Most people still get zero at your point. I was still testing zero at 8 days with all of mine and getting numbers like yours at days 10 and 11.

Congratulations!!! Oh, and your numbers even doubled better than mine and I am now 34 weeks pregnant. I think things look great for you.

aspice · 07-24-2009, 09:09 PM

LMKH.. Are u serious? Please don't get me excited!!! lolz. I was pretty disappointed from the 1st IVF. Yeah i think I'm right about my post? Dr. did the eggs retrieval on Sunday July 12. Hmmm... I'm alil confused about all of these counts (hahaaha, I meant alot). How many are u having? Boy or girls?

LMKH · 07-24-2009, 10:15 PM

Your numbers start at zero and go up. So at some point they are only a 5, or a 10, or an 18 and so on. It is the increase that matters. And even the increase can be questionable to a point. I know with this pregnancy, my first number was a 20 and then 48 hrs later, a 23. I think the first one was maybe cd11. I started as twins so it would have been lower if it had not started as twins. I am having one now, it is a boy, and I am due in less than 6 weeks.

I see only good in your numbers. Of course, even good numbers can go bad, but that is true of any pregnancy, IVF or not. But your numbers look picture perfect so far!

check out the numbers on www.betabase.info

Oh, if your egg retrieval was in the 12th and the transfer was the 17th, that makes it day 5 embryos. Count your pregnancy as if you conceived on the 12th. So I would call your first numbers as 10 dpo and your 2nd as 12 dpo. Your numbers are still wonderful as there was a wonderful increase.

melican · 07-25-2009, 07:38 AM

The betabase website is a good one! I used it with my beta numbers. Another website that I used to help track my pregnancy was http://www.ivf.ca/duedate.php You just need to put july 12, 2009 and it calculates trimisters, testing and some milestones for your baby. GL, hope to hear that the beta keeps getting higher and higher.

P.S. According to the website you should be getting your first beta on the 27th...it is Canadian though and we tend to wait a little while longer to make sure the numbers are higher. That being said I think the fact that you have your beta numbers climbing is a good sign...be cautiously optimistic!! Congrats!

aspice · 07-25-2009, 08:19 AM

thanks LMKH & Melican... I've tried the betabase website but now let me try the ivf.ca. My hubby & I are praying every night for this to come true for us. After reading forums and getting responds from you ladies I am a little more optimistic and have more hope. I keep u ladies posted on my beta on Monday!

aspice · 07-25-2009, 08:21 AM

CONGRATZ melican on ur babygirl... when will u find out if it's a girl for sure?

mmi · 07-25-2009, 09:09 AM

The doubling is what is most important.. a 14dpiui(so 14 after egg retrieval) so the 26th... an average beta is 100. But again, the doubling, not rreally the number is what is important.. congrats!

melican · 07-25-2009, 10:49 AM

Thanks Aspice...we have our next ultrasound August 19th and the technican can give us a better guess. She said she thinks it's a girl because she didn't see an extra little piece hanging

but it could have been hiding.

aspice · 07-25-2009, 07:41 PM

thnkx mmi.. Monday is coming soon and i can't wait to let u guys know what my beta will be.
melican: lol.. no extra lil piece hanging? ahahaha... that's funny! i'm excited for u either boy or girl as long as he/she will be healthy.

07-24-2009, 05:58 PM	#1 (permalink)
aspice 0-99 post 2 of hearts Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: houston, tx Posts: 38	confused on HCG counts!!! Hello everyone! I'm not sure how this forum works but hoping that some1 can help me understand about HCG counts. I'm currently on my 2nd IVF but of course the 1st time did not have a good result. I've been reading over thousands of threads & forums about these IVF. I had my ET done on 7/17/09 w/3 full blast embryos. The had froze 2 embryos. On Wed 7/22, I had BW done w/a HCG of 5. Friday 7/24, my HCG went up to 18.2. I am so confused why is it so low being that my PDO was on 7/12??? Please help me understand if u been in my situation.... Thanks, Aspice Last edited by aspice; 07-24-2009 at 06:04 PM.

07-25-2009, 07:38 AM	#5 (permalink)
melican 600-699 post 8 of hearts Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Ontario Posts: 615	The betabase website is a good one! I used it with my beta numbers. Another website that I used to help track my pregnancy was http://www.ivf.ca/duedate.php You just need to put july 12, 2009 and it calculates trimisters, testing and some milestones for your baby. GL, hope to hear that the beta keeps getting higher and higher. P.S. According to the website you should be getting your first beta on the 27th...it is Canadian though and we tend to wait a little while longer to make sure the numbers are higher. That being said I think the fact that you have your beta numbers climbing is a good sign...be cautiously optimistic!! Congrats! __________________ Me 30 DH 26 IVF#1 April 2009 EDD January 2, 2010...A Girl!?!?! Last edited by melican; 07-25-2009 at 07:40 AM. Reason: left out info

07-25-2009, 10:49 AM	#9 (permalink)
melican 600-699 post 8 of hearts Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Ontario Posts: 615	Thanks Aspice...we have our next ultrasound August 19th and the technican can give us a better guess. She said she thinks it's a girl because she didn't see an extra little piece hangingbut it could have been hiding. __________________ Me 30 DH 26 IVF#1 April 2009 EDD January 2, 2010...A Girl!?!?!

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07-24-2009, 08:33 PM	#2 (permalink)
LMKH 200-299 post 4 of hearts Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Flower Mound, TX Posts: 260	You had day 3 embryos transferred 5 days before the first test? That makes them day 8 embryos at that first test? If this is correct, I am understanding your post correctly, your numbers are great and I am shocked they took your betas so early. Most people still get zero at your point. I was still testing zero at 8 days with all of mine and getting numbers like yours at days 10 and 11. Congratulations!!! Oh, and your numbers even doubled better than mine and I am now 34 weeks pregnant. I think things look great for you.

07-24-2009, 09:09 PM	#3 (permalink)
aspice 0-99 post 2 of hearts Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: houston, tx Posts: 38	LMKH.. Are u serious? Please don't get me excited!!! lolz. I was pretty disappointed from the 1st IVF. Yeah i think I'm right about my post? Dr. did the eggs retrieval on Sunday July 12. Hmmm... I'm alil confused about all of these counts (hahaaha, I meant alot). How many are u having? Boy or girls?

07-24-2009, 10:15 PM	#4 (permalink)
LMKH 200-299 post 4 of hearts Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Flower Mound, TX Posts: 260	Your numbers start at zero and go up. So at some point they are only a 5, or a 10, or an 18 and so on. It is the increase that matters. And even the increase can be questionable to a point. I know with this pregnancy, my first number was a 20 and then 48 hrs later, a 23. I think the first one was maybe cd11. I started as twins so it would have been lower if it had not started as twins. I am having one now, it is a boy, and I am due in less than 6 weeks. I see only good in your numbers. Of course, even good numbers can go bad, but that is true of any pregnancy, IVF or not. But your numbers look picture perfect so far! check out the numbers on www.betabase.info Oh, if your egg retrieval was in the 12th and the transfer was the 17th, that makes it day 5 embryos. Count your pregnancy as if you conceived on the 12th. So I would call your first numbers as 10 dpo and your 2nd as 12 dpo. Your numbers are still wonderful as there was a wonderful increase.

07-25-2009, 08:19 AM	#6 (permalink)
aspice 0-99 post 2 of hearts Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: houston, tx Posts: 38	thanks LMKH & Melican... I've tried the betabase website but now let me try the ivf.ca. My hubby & I are praying every night for this to come true for us. After reading forums and getting responds from you ladies I am a little more optimistic and have more hope. I keep u ladies posted on my beta on Monday!

07-25-2009, 08:21 AM	#7 (permalink)
aspice 0-99 post 2 of hearts Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: houston, tx Posts: 38	CONGRATZ melican on ur babygirl... when will u find out if it's a girl for sure?

07-25-2009, 09:09 AM	#8 (permalink)
mmi 5000-9999 post king of hearts Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 6,471	The doubling is what is most important.. a 14dpiui(so 14 after egg retrieval) so the 26th... an average beta is 100. But again, the doubling, not rreally the number is what is important.. congrats!

07-25-2009, 07:41 PM	#10 (permalink)
aspice 0-99 post 2 of hearts Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: houston, tx Posts: 38	thnkx mmi.. Monday is coming soon and i can't wait to let u guys know what my beta will be. melican: lol.. no extra lil piece hanging? ahahaha... that's funny! i'm excited for u either boy or girl as long as he/she will be healthy.