hcg/beta levels WERE doubling, now slowed down ALOT (not even 8 wks)???

[Tammy K]

i am looking for ANY glimmer of hope. for those that don't know my situation or history, i had 2 m/c's, one right after the other, in late 2005. we got pg in Feb/Mar of 06 and had a healthy baby boy (but not without some complications during the pregnancy).

anyway, we are now expecting another baby, unexpectedly. and i've been having issues from almost day one. i had beta counts run and the DPO i *think* i was:

7/21 11 dpo 76
7/24 14 dpo 323
7/29 19 dpo 1907
8/14 35 dpo 11950

if you notice the first three were great numbers for the DPO that they were. and even if i was off by like a WEEK, they are still great numbers. reason i say that is b/c i went in for an u/s on Tuesday of this week.

i should have been 6w6d. the u/s showed 5w3d. now, i know my LMP was 6/25 and while we did have sex other times, i know WHEN we 'slipped up'. while i don't know exactly WHEN i O'd, i don't think there's any way the sperm stayed in me ALIVE for a week.

anyway, all they saw was a gestational sac. but said, based on the 5w3d, that is on target. ok, fine. go w/ that measurement.

well, i started spotting/bleeding dark brown/brown on Monday afternoon and have been every since, including AT the u/s. i know i've been told "brown blood, old, no big deal". well that would be fine except i've been having right side cramping since then as well. they told me at the u/s that i had a cyst. ok, that may explain the cramps.

well, i called the OB office today saying i was in more pain and they ordered a beta quant STAT. got the number back this afternoon, at 11950. great number for 35 DPO HOWEVER, it's NOT doubling every 48-72 hrs. more like every 145 hrs. and while i realize they slow down further into the PG, i'm not even 8 wks (by MY calculations, much less theirs...6 wks TOPS). so it can't be that.

so, i'm left to think/feel that i am, once again, miscarrying. can ANYONE please help me see that this might not be an imminent miscarriage, please????

[parker10302]

I am so sorry that you're going though this ...I am in the exact same boat as you are right now. This is pure torture. I will keep you in my prayers.

[Tammy K]

copied from another journal i have online...

I know i'm having a miscarriage. but i can't seem to get a straight answer from ANYONE. i'm waiting on the ob dr to call me w/ the 'results'.

i had my apptm today schedule for 130. and i was told to empty my bladder at 1230, then drink 24 oz of water in 20 minutes prior to my u/s. ok.

it's a good **** thing they let me empty it and RE-FILL on water. i was there til 230 before i was even let go back. and it was a STAT u/s request.

they did both abdominal and vaginal. and while the tech isn't supposed to tell me anything, she KNEW i already knew what was going on. BUT she wouldn't give me definitives. no shocker there. the u/s couldn't even measure the gest sac b/c it was too small. HOWEVER, it was STILL a complete and perfect circle. she kept asking me about my dates. dammit! i KNOW when my LMP was and i KNOW when i got my :bfp:. those i am certain of. you can NOT tell me i'm only 5w now. that's just virtually impossible.

she was very nice and showed me what the u/s showed. a sac. but nothing else. no yolk sac. no fetal pole. no h/b. which leads one to believe it's not a viable PG, right? WRONG! b/c the sac was STILL intact AND perfectly round (no deterioration or collapsing), they wouldn't give me ANY information past that.

i get home. call the ob office for answers. the nurse says she talked to the dr before she went in to see a patient and the dr was so 'taken' by my results from the hospital that she will call me back personally after she's seen her last patient. WTF?!

so, while i know that it's an imminent m/c, i just want the dr. to confirm it. not that i WANT a m/c, but it would certainly help the grieving process. ya know? this limbo **** is for the birds. now i'm just upset i can't get answers. and that dr had BETTER call me back by like 530 or i WILL be calling the after hours number to have them hunt her down! this is just sheer bull****.

and the fact of the matter is, the reason i WANT to just hear confirmation is so they will go ahead and do a d&c. yes, i realize most women may not WANT that type of procedure as it is invasive but i do. b/c that will give me a timeline. waiting this **** out is something i can't stand emotionally...much less physically. i just can't.

so, that's it for now.

and

well, i finally talked to the dr. she's my favorite within the practice. too bad she's leaving on maternity at the end of this month.

anyway, she pretty much gave it to me as straight as possible. she did not see this as a viable pregnancy BUT did not want to rule it completely out b/c of the circumstances (perfect gestational sack, still measuring something, etc.). so, it's a matter of waiting until Tuesday @ 4 pm to basically confirm what we really already know.

that being said, she made a comment about the fact that while i said we were done before we found out about this PG, she said she didn't think we sounded done judging by MY tone/voice/etc. and honestly, I'M NOT DONE. there, i said it. we are NOT done. :headshake:

i can accept that this PG is not viable. i can accept that i have to wait til Tuesday to confirm this fact. and i will most likely end up with a d&c b/c my body LOVES to hang on to babies. i have no problem GETTING pg and even holding on to babies, it's maintaining a VIABLE pregnancy that's the problem. but i can NOT accept that we are DONE.

AND, i will probably be calling my insurance company about which RE in our area is covered under our insurance. i am going to see one. i think these m/c's are ar more than just 'fluke'.

so there it is. i would have been really happy to have had this baby. and it would have been PERFECT timing in so many ways. but, as always, God has other plans for us. perhaps his reasons for putting us through this now is to 'enlighten' us on the fact that we are NOT done w/ having children.

[superanxious]

Tammy K, Are they ordering any more tests? I feel your pain in the blighted ovum department. My body also doesn't give up non-viable pregnancies and always has to end in a D&C. The good news about that though, is that it won't give up viable pregnancies either. I don't know your experience with your DS, but with my DD I had to be induced at 41 weeks and it still took 3 days before I dialated AT ALL!!!

If you do find an RE in your area, I would definitely get tested for antiphospholipid antibodies. It is a blood clotting disorder that will affect your fetuses and not you. Actually, you could ask your OB to run the test also.
Here is what I found on the internet about it, so I would make sure you get more than one test if it comes back negative...

"Be aware, however, that many times antiphospholipid antibodies can be transient in the body. They may be present at one blood test and then absent at the next. For this reason, some doctors will not diagnose antiphospholipid syndrome unless two blood tests turn up positive with an interval of a few weeks or months. Others will treat a woman for APS with just a single positive blood test."

It is treated with baby aspirin if it turns out that you have this.

Good luck to you. I hope that you get answers one way or another. I can understand the torture that you are going through.

[Tammy K]

i have an u/s today to find out what is going on internally.

thanks for the info about that disorder. i'm wondering if i have an issue w/ my estrogen level...not just progesterone???

i'll know more this afternoon...

[superanxious]

Good luck! I will be sending all the good thoughts your way that I can!