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Old 07-10-2008, 07:44 AM   #1 (permalink)
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strong thermal shift after period of anovulation???

BBT question . . . I stopped temping when the RE thought I was POF. After 3 years, I put down the charts. Well, when I got my good b/w on July 3, I picked up the thermometer again and casually temped (meaning I skipped a day or two). My b/w progesterone levels says I o'ed and I have the strongest temp. shift I have ever seen in 3 years (from 97.3 to 98.2). Is it the wheatgrass? Is it because I am on like day 109 of my cycle and all that progesterone is stored up? Usually my temp. shift is no greater than 97.7 or 97.9. Now I have had 3 or 4 days of 98, 98.1, 98.2, higher each day.

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Old 07-10-2008, 08:47 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Hi there: What were your blood results on 7/3? Did it show no POF? Or is that the bloodwork that showed O? What I'm trying to get at is whether you had good b/w on 7/3, starting temping, then got your shift ... or whether when you picked up your therm again after your temping break you were already in the 98's?

In any event, I think it's possible that you did O! I wouldn't think that prog could be stored up and then show a big rise like that. I have seen many anovulatory charts where there is no rise and prog. does not show O at all (therefore, no storing up!). Hope I'm making some sense.

I would definitely keep temping!

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Old 07-10-2008, 01:45 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Hi, Maura,

Oh, I guess I should take a step back. My b/w on 7/2 showed an FSH 3, LH3, E2 100. We were so happy because my last b/w showed FSH 39, LH39, and e2 60. So you know what we did to celebrate

The doc thought I could be POF because of the first set of b/w and AF has been AWOL. So I had given up charting because the doc thought I was POF. So on 7/3, I decided to chart again. I temped 97.3 (I am going to assume that is my pre-O temp. because it usually is in previous cycles). 7/4 temp. is 97.7, 7/5 (I skip), 7/7 97.7 (I have b/w checking my progesterone level on this day), 7/8 98 (nurse calls, progesterone is 8, which indicated ovulation after 106 days!), 7/9 98.1, 7/10 98.2.

So, long story short is I am delighted the cycle is back after a long absence but it seems odd that my temp. shift is so strong because in 3 yrs. of cycles it is never that strong.....Just wondering if it is from a super long anovulation period.

I also have a fibroid that I need surgery on ASAP, so that is why they took my progesterone level because the surgery has to be after AF....unless the BMS led to a mircale. I don't know how that fits in to the puzzle, but just thought I'd mention it.

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Old 07-10-2008, 06:20 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Thanks for clearing that up! What is your coverline usually? Do you think you O'd on July 3 then? Seems like it if your 97.7 on 7/7 was already post-O and you had a 97.7 on 7/4, eh? Sounds like BMS was timed well!

Can you get another progesterone test tomorrow? That would be around 8 dpo and would show whether the prog. continued to rise up.

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Thanks, Maura, usually fertilityfriend.com puts my coverline at 97.4 or 97.5. I guess I will just wait it out.
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Well, be sure to let us know how the waiting goes.

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Thanks Maura. If it is a BFN, I am on to surgery for the fibroid and a lap to check my tubes. If it is a BFP, no surgery, no lap, but may be a risky preg.
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hi pray2rita...those are some crazy changes in your b/w results. are you with the same RE? what does he say about that huge decrease in the numbers?

i remember when i had my bw done and my FSH was relatively low (5.2) and my doc was elated, saying it was "excellent." i guess that would make your "3" a super-excellent

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Old 07-11-2008, 06:06 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Hi, Dina,

Well, keep in mind that neither of these FSH levels were CD3 because AF has been AWOL for over 100 days. But, I started taking wheatgrass and royal jelly as soon as I got the FSH of 39. I have the same RE and these two blood levels are about a month apart. I asked my RE if it was the wheatgrass, she said no, this just happens sometimes. My sis is a gyn and I told her that I had been taking wheatgrass and praying like crazy. She did not think it was the wheatgrass either but asked who I had been praying to because the only person in her practice that she saw this happen to was a survivor of the radiation disaster in Chernobyl. (St. Rita...hence my handle and St. Gianna, among others)
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hey....who cares what it is, right?

i was told to pray to st. gerard. i bought a medal which i wore with my cross, and individual medals with the prayer card encased in plastic. i kept him with me at all times. i had him in my pocketbook, my car, my dh's car, etc. i still where him with my cross.

well, in the event you do get AF (which of course we hope you wont) i would ask your OB to do cd 3 b/w to see if you can get another reading.

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