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Old 03-25-2005, 05:06 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Any ideas of how to interpret???

OK - I've been keeping quiet b/c I wanted to wait to see a pattern, and now I've got one and don't know what to think...
This cycle has been so long.
Started bbt & opk on day 10. opk results next to temps.
CD 10-14 = 97.4 none
15 = 97.5 - started drinking Red Rasberry tea in morning
16 = 97.7 none
17=97.9 none
18=98.1 none
19=98.4 decided to discontinue RR tea in case that was making temps go up, also had light pink on opk,bms
20=97.2, no line
21=97.2, v.light
22=97.4, none
23=97.2 light
24=97.4 light, bms
25=97.4 light
26=97.4 light
27=97.6 light
28=97.5 v light
29=97.5 light, ewcm,bms
30=97.7 light, b/w=p4 0.10, E2 97, hcg <2, STARTED PROMETRIUM
31=97.9 light
32=97.9 light
33=97.9 v light
34=98.1 light, red blood on t paper after BM, but no spotting or any other later, lots of AF cramping - thought for sure it was coming
35=97.4 light
36=98.1 light
37=98.1 light
38=98.1 barely there
39=98.2 (today- 3/26)

No more ewcm or even wet cm.

Any thoughts??? If I wasn't okping or taking the prometrium, I would think that I O'd on cd29, but the opk has shown no surge and I started the prometrium on day 29 (although my temp was already starting to go up as I didn't take it until the evening)

And what's up with the blood on cd 34 and the temp drop on CD 35?? Could the elevated temps be due just to the prometrium?

I'm suppose to discontinue the prometrium after tomorrow's dose to bring on AF, but if there's even a slight chance that I could have O'd on day 29 (even though my prog. on day 30 was VERY low, so b/w would say that I didn't), I don't want to discontinue and ruin the one in a million chance that I might have O'd and bms'ed at the right time.



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Old 03-25-2005, 06:36 AM   #2 (permalink)
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wow your a lot more orginized than i am

as far as it all goes i have no clue, new to this myself ya know, but just letting you know i was happy to see your update...its been a while girl, and can see you were busy! in my opinion...and im in no way an "expert", or even well versed , but i dont see how the prometrium would hurt if you took it for a little longer, but dont go on my advice, better consult the experts in here

just letting you know i saw your post and i have for you, talk later-kel
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Old 03-25-2005, 07:25 AM   #3 (permalink)
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20=97.2, no line
21=97.2, v.light
22=97.4, none
23=97.2 light
24=97.4 light, bms
25=97.4 light
26=97.4 light
27=97.6 light
28=97.5 v light
29=97.5 light, ewcm,bms
30=97.7 light, b/w=p4 0.10, E2 97, hcg <2, STARTED PROMETRIUM
31=97.9 light
32=97.9 light
33=97.9 v light
34=98.1 light, red blood on t paper after BM, but no spotting or any other later, lots of AF cramping - thought for sure it was coming
35=97.4 light
36=98.1 light
37=98.1 light
38=98.1 (today)


Hi Robin. Confusing cycle! Without considering OPKs and just looking at temps, I see cd 26 as a possible O date. You have a temp rise on cd 27 that is two tenths higher than your highest temp in the previous 6 temps, which is technically all you need for O. Your coverline would be 97.5 in that instance.

Your temps on cds 28 and 29 do come down .1 degree to what would be your coverline, but you could just be a slow riser...

Or, since you had ewcm on cd 29 and another temp rise on cd 30, maybe you ovulated on cd 29 with a coverline of 97.6. I'm thinking that this scenario is more likely since your prog. on cd 30 was so low. I'd expect it to be higher if you ovulated on cd 26.

The absence of a ++OPK is not necessarily determinative of O since some women don't seem to be able to use OPKs. Have you had success with them in the past?

The blood and cramping on cd 34 are interesting ... it seems too far removed to be O cramping... and so other possibilities that come to mind are cramping from a cyst or cramping from implantation. Obviously I hope it's the latter! Not sure whether the Prom can cause cramping too?

The temp drop on cd 35 could just be a fluke, esp. since your temp has gone back up. As for your higher temps, they could be from the prog. you're taking; it's hard to say.

If I were you, I'd call your doctor and ask whether you can have a prog. check to see whether you've O'd (not sure whether you'd be able to get a good read since you're on Prometrium though?) or if there's any harm in continuing the meds for another few days just in case.

Best of luck and let us know how things turn out!
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Old 03-25-2005, 02:12 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Thanks, Kel and Maura!
The last time I used opk's in conjuction with bbt, I had one day of light pink (cd25) followed by one day of dark pink = to control line and then no line on cd 27 coupled with a temp rise, so assumed that I O'd on day 26. Got AF on day 35, so very short LP.
This cycle it has been so screwed up with the opk results.
I figure that I will continue prometrium 14 days after O (assuming O was on cd29) and then hpt. I'm also having a consult with new RE on Tuesday and will have an u/s then, so I will be able to tell how many or how big the cyst is on my ovary. I know I have one as I can feel it and have felt it for the past 4 weeks. I also figure that he'll want to do bloodwork and that would be 13dpo if O was on cd29. So we'll see what happens...
Until then I'm pouring through my inch and a half thick medical records from the past 18 months that I got from current RE and finding all sorts of things that they never told me...guess it wasn't important enough, but it still makes me wonder...

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Update

This just gets weirder...
Today bbt was 98.2 AND I took it about a half hour earlier than usual.
The other weird thing, which I will put on a separate post, is that yesterday afternoon I wasn't feeling good, so I took my temp and it was 97.6 in the middle of the day after running around doing errands all day! Shouldn't it be higher than the bbt?

still ing!

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ok, i have just read thru the above posts and i think my brain just exploded what a confusing cycle. i agree with what maura said about the possible O cd 26. i also wanted to let you know that the prometrium could cause your temps to go up, so it's posible your getting higher temps that's progest induced and you didn't actually O.

P.S. i answered your other post re: afternoon temps
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Thanks, Dina!
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really is a confusing cycle. I see a possible O on cd26 too. I see you covered your bases on cd29. The last day of any cm is considered your peak day and you covered it in the bsming dept.

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Thanks, Stacy-Ann.

The weird thing is that I usually have several days (like 5) of ewcm. This time it was only one day.

I don't know...next week will tell us for sure. Not getting my hopes up - now just planning for the next step, whatever that might be...

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Hi Robin. It's great that you're going through your medical records... and amazing that you're finding things that you were never told! Grrr..... health care in this country could sure stand some improvement! Anyway, good for you for being proactive... only good can come of it!

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